re: General discussion - American food supply relating to allergies (gluten, nuts, soy, etc).

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The Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA) for protein is a modest 0.8 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight, or 0.36 grams per pound.

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How can you still be taking your cues from the government at this late date?

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Harvard Article

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Harvard famously is neck deep in advancing the dubious nutrition agenda of the past 70 years.

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Not a sustainable diet. You need a balanced diet for your body to function to its highest capability. This is widely known fact. So much misinformation in this thread it's astounding

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The "balanced diet" thing is a total myth.

Seed oils.

Of course it’s over eating and low activity

But we didn’t have all this garbage 100 years ago

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Here's your study

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thats a cooralation not causation study. you do understand the difference right?

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You want me to link actual studies but you don

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all you have to do is google. finding yours are not so simple as there are not studies on it. what you linked above is not a study. its simply a correlation study that says...these people ate more red and processed meat(which any study that doesnt separate out the two is flawed big time to begin with) and they died early without looking at

1) other eating habits, including total caloric consumption, total macro breakdown, eating other processed carbs, fat profile intake etc

2) total protein consumption

3) exercise habits

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Simply not true either. Have you ever looked at the Vitamin levels in Multi Vitamins? They aren't that high in most.

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it is true. you realize that is per serving right...take more of the individuals ones if you need them.




you want a study from me...here ya go
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The data presented in the present study showed that a ketogenic diet acted as a natural therapy for weight reduction in obese patients. This is a unique study monitoring the effect of a ketogenic diet for 24 weeks. There was a significant decrease in the level of triglycerides, total cholesterol, LDL cholesterol and glucose, and a significant increase in the level of HDL cholesterol in the patients. The side effects of drugs commonly used for the reduction of body weight in such patients were not observed in patients who were on the ketogenic diet. Therefore, these results indicate that the administration of a ketogenic diet for a relatively long period of time is safe. Further studies elucidating the molecular mechanisms of a ketogenic diet are in progress in our laboratory. These studies will open new avenues into the potential therapeutic uses of a ketogenic diet and ketone bodies.

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here is another
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A recent systemic review and meta-analysis of RCTs comparing the long-term effects (more than 1 year) of dietary interventions on weight loss revealed a lack of substantial evidence supporting the recommendation of low-fat diets.[27] Low-carbohydrate diets were found to be more effective in achieving significant weight loss compared to low-fat interventions. Additionally, a carbohydrate-restricted diet was found to better maintain an individual's basal metabolic rate (BMR), suggesting that the quality of calories consumed can impact the number of calories burned. In comparison to a very low-carb diet, a low-fat diet resulted in a decrease of more than 400 kcal per day in BMR.[27]

A well-formulated ketogenic diet not only restricts carbohydrates but also moderates protein intake to less than 1 gram per pound of body weight, with the option to increase to 1.5 grams per pound for individuals engaged in heavy exercise involving weight training. This limitation on protein intake aims to prevent endogenous glucose production through gluconeogenesis. However, there are no specific restrictions on fat or overall daily calorie intake.

Individuals on a ketogenic diet typically experience rapid weight loss, often up to 10 pounds in 2 weeks or less. This initial weight loss is attributed to the diet's diuretic effect; the loss of water weight is followed by fat loss. Interestingly, the ketogenic diet tends to preserve lean body muscle mass. As nutritional ketosis is sustained, hunger decreases, and the overall reduction in caloric intake further aids in weight loss.

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here is one on the carnivore diet...its a bullshite study like the one you posted on the article from havard, this was another study done by havard

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Contrary to common expectations, adults consuming a carnivore diet experienced few adverse effects and instead reported health benefits and high satisfaction. Cardiovascular disease risk factors were variably affected. The generalizability of these findings and the long-term effects of this dietary pattern require further study.

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the article above discusses the "study"

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I haven't taken the plunge yet, but it seems quite likely that raw milk is very healthful.

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if you can get from a good source it is.

same with beef and other things done locally. its better but its not not feasible for the population as a whole. population as a whole...pasteurized milk has been around for a long time and we didnt have all of these health issues in the 50/60/70s etc.

why did these issues come along...because activity level has plummeted, the consumption of calories mainly in the form of processed simple carbs has went way up, and the consumption of protein is down.

i agree with OP that the food sources suck to a certain extent but overall the biggest problem is the average american gets a total of 20 min of activity a day and consumes over 3500 calories....much bigger issue

its a bigger issue than worrying about if someone is on keto, carnivore, eats a balanced diet, eats seed oils, eats HFCS etc etc

we suck as health overall as a country because we focus way way too much on the wrong things and often obsess over perfection with things like....perfect macros, what types of carbs or fats we eat, how many servings of fruits, veggies, what kind of oils etc etc etc

shite isnt that complicated

-lift 2x per week progressively
- walk 10k steps per day
- stay in a slight caloric deficit, prioritizing protein, eating highly satiating foods and sitting down and eating as a family without distractions.

those couple things would make a much much bigger impact on health than say...making sure everyone is eating a perfectly balanced diet etc.

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I can't help that you can't read. It literally says in the first sentence that

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did you read the actual study? i did, its a cooralation study, same as the one from havard i listed above. there are no strict variables. believe what you want though, i dont really care. sounds like you are doing fine diet wise.

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I don't need to read further

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lol did you read the whole caption i put above that? i specifically said it was shite study inline with the one you quoted

but i listed two others that you conveniently ignore because it blows your theory out the water.

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same with beef and other things done locally. its better but its not not feasible for the population as a whole. population as a whole...pasteurized milk has been around for a long time and we didnt have all of these health issues in the 50/60/70s etc.

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I agree with you on a lot of this, but I will say that the big tick up in heart disease (from essentially zero in the early 1900s to the POTUS having a heart attack while in office in the 50s) seem to track quite directly with the introduction of seed oils (i.e. Crisco/margarine) en masse to the genpop. So, yes, of course spiking obesity levels have only fanned the flames, but lots of skinny people started having heart attacks when they had never done so before.

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American food supply relating to allergies

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My generation = not a single kid had nut allergies and we consumed massive PB&J's

This generation = see a nut and break out

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What is primarily to blame for this with the American food supply? Is it mostly on the front end with farming the crops? Glyphosate saturation and genetically engineered crops? Is it more so the processing and preservatives? Something other than those factors?

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Both

In the 50's, Beetus was around 3% of the total population
Now that number has passed 70% of the total population

When I was young we ate raw beef from the local butcher (tartar and carpaccio as example), beef came from a local source and 100% from a single cow.

If you want to talk about the food chain in today’s world, look at the additives for coloring. Red, blue, yellow, are inserted into almost everything. My son is allergic to red dye 40, and it is a nightmare, trying to find foods without this added. We seem to be the only country left. That is not outlawed these specific additives. a lot of our food comes from Aldie, not an American company, who seems to be on the trend of supplying foods with no dyes. I have a six year old they can eat two skittles, and be over the moon with energy. May take up to 48 hours to get it out of his system if he’s had enough of it. Skittles are the worst. Full of coloring dye.