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re: General discussion - American food supply relating to allergies (gluten, nuts, soy, etc).

Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:24 am to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:24 am to
yea not sure where people get this idea you have to go to the gym every day either

lift 3x per week for less than an hour...hell even twice

4-5 exercises each session, full body compound lifts and progressively overload them

then walk 10k steps per day at home with the family, dog or if you are at like a kids practice....walk back and fourth the whole time.

if you have other time at home, go for a run.

literally if the average american did

lifted at gym-2x per week
cardio- ran 2 miles 1x per week

got 10k steps per day.....

we would be way way way healthier.
Posted by WigSplitta22
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:24 am to
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actually it is. its not my preferred but to say you need a balanced diet is retarded. as far as sustainable, that is an individual thing.

as far as misinformation....alot coming from you.



I haven't said one thing in this thread that can be disputed with facts
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63786 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:26 am to
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Clean whole foods. Not that hard


You told someone who is eating clean Whole Foods that his diet isn’t sustainable.
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:27 am to
It’s more expensive but imported wheat, sprouted grain bread, pasta etc. is available. There is a choice, you don’t have to eat it.

American farms are a double edged sword. They can feed the world but to get that much yield, they use systems which arent healthy long term.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:28 am to
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I wish I had time to go to the gym every day,


Buy some dumbells and work out in your garage. You can get a very good workout on your own with basic weights and bodyweight exercizes.
Posted by WigSplitta22
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:29 am to
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You told someone who is eating clean Whole Foods
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There’s a reason you won’t find the carnivore diet topping expert-approved lists of the best diets to follow. This eating plan has some serious red flags.

Low in Fiber and Other Nutrients
While proponents of the carnivore diet say it’s the way humans were meant to eat, it’s missing some key nutrients known to promote human health. One notable shortfall: fiber. Not only could a lack of fiber leave you extremely constipated, but it might also set you up for health problems in the long term. A higher-fiber diet is associated with a lower risk of heart disease and colon cancer, as well as better blood sugar management.4

Nutrients like vitamin C and plant-based polyphenols are also absent from a carnivore diet. A vitamin C deficiency puts you at risk of scurvy, and going without antioxidants could increase inflammation, diminishing overall health in the long term.

High in Saturated Fat and Sodium
What do beef, lamb, and pork have in common? These common meats are all high in saturated fat. While research is still teasing apart the connection between saturated fat and heart disease, public health organizations continue to recommend keeping your intake low. The American Heart Association advises eating no more than 6% of your daily calories from saturated fat (about 120 calories on a 2,000-calorie-per-day diet).5 A carnivore diet will likely far exceed this recommendation.

Sodium is another concerning nutrient in many animal foods like cured meats (think bacon, sausage, and deli meats). Over-consuming sodium from these types of animal products could increase your risk of high blood pressure.6

Could Harm Liver and Kidneys
Protein is, of course, a necessary nutrient for optimal health. However, the liver and kidneys have a limit on how much of it they can process. By eating only meat, you could take in so much protein as to tax these organs, potentially even causing damage.7




The carnivore diet is not clean whole foods you retard. Any diet that excludes nuts,seeds,fruits & vegetables is laughable


This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 9:32 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38069 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:31 am to
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I haven't said one thing in this thread that can be disputed with facts


you said you need a balanced diet....thats not true. there are no studies showing that at all. none

tons of studies show you dont need carbs if that is your preferred way of eating.

again there are tons of meta analysis on this.

and im not saying keto is better or carnivore is better for health or fatloss(because all diets are the same for body fat loss once calories and protein are equated)
Posted by Kang of Memphissippi
Memphissippi
Member since Sep 2023
561 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:32 am to
For the past couple of months my primary diet has been bacon and eggs on the morning, and in the evening cooking a steak and eating half and saving other half for lunch. Also eat fruit with lunch and in the evening. That has been working out pretty well, but I get constipated.

Also will bake asparagus or zucchini a handful of times per week to have for lunch/dinner
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 9:33 am
Posted by WigSplitta22
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:36 am to
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you said you need a balanced diet....thats not true. there are no studies showing that at all. none




What? Are you serious? There are lots of studies showing that. Harvard has done a few recently. Stop talking out of your arse in this thread
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:38 am to

Tried to warn you. Nothing else will be about bread, gluten etc
Posted by WigSplitta22
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:40 am to
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you said you need a balanced diet....thats not true. there are no studies showing that at all. none


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Studies have shown that a well-balanced diet is beneficial for overall health and weight management. According to the Harvard School of Public Health, focusing on food quality is an important part of preventing weight gain and promoting weight loss 1. The study suggests that consuming high-quality foods in appropriately sized portions can help achieve and maintain a healthy weight 1.
Posted by Columbia
Land of the Yuppies
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:40 am to
I’m with you 100% on this topic. The truth is that BigAg/BigFood is another giant corporate industry that controls what we are able to consume. We have seen in the past few years how corrupt they all are (i.e FDA). To make change, you have to have politicians that are passionate about such change. Currently, the only person running for president that exhibits these qualities has been blackballed from his own party and forced to run independent. Hmmmm I can’t imagine why.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:42 am to
One of the biggies is high fructose corn syrup. A metric frick ton of European countries have banned its use.
Posted by WigSplitta22
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2395 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:46 am to
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One of the biggies is high fructose corn syrup. A metric frick ton of European countries have banned its use



False. It's not labeled HFCS in Europe. It's called GFS which is glucose/fructose syrup which is the same exact thing.
Posted by Kang of Memphissippi
Memphissippi
Member since Sep 2023
561 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:48 am to
Do you have a theory of why in the US my wife gets rashes on her neck from anything with gluten, but never had any reaction at all during 9 days in various areas of Europe?
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
46860 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:48 am to
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False


I saw on the news a few weeks ago, in a story aboot fat Americans, that a bunch of European countries had banned it.

ETA: Internet searches show they limit its supply, but do not ban it.
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 9:51 am
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63786 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:51 am to
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The carnivore diet is not clean whole foods you retard. Any diet that excludes nuts,seeds,fruits & vegetables is laughable



The skinny fat dude who doesn’t lift and who is borderline vegetarian is telling me I’m a retard about diet. Ok, femboy.
Posted by tigernurse
Member since Dec 2005
36261 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:55 am to
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Do you have a theory of why in the US my wife gets rashes on her neck from anything with gluten, but never had any reaction at all during 9 days in various areas of Europe?


I don't know the full answer, but I have heard this to be relatively true from ppl who are much smarter than I am regarding food/nutrition. I'm not sure what the difference is - but I think the wheat is different.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:57 am to
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don't know the full answer, but I have heard this to be relatively true from ppl who are much smarter than I am regarding food/nutrition. I'm not sure what the difference is - but I think the wheat is different.


Posted by Kang of Memphissippi
Memphissippi
Member since Sep 2023
561 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:58 am to
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I don't know the full answer, but I have heard this to be relatively true from ppl who are much smarter than I am regarding food/nutrition.



Indeed. It’s not like I’m the first person to have observed this. I’ve heard about this happening before, which is why I was interested in observing what would happen before ever going on the trip
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