re: General discussion - American food supply relating to allergies (gluten, nuts, soy, etc).

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Christ, I do. I cook every day. All my cooking is done from scratch. You’re making this argument with the wrong person, and that is not the point I’m making at all. I’m wanting to start a discussion of what are root causes, and what steps can be taken to get the ball rolling towards accountability. No one ever saying anything is why we continue to get fricked.

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how about we worry about getting obesity rates down before we start worrying about things that are only a very very small problem?

im not saying you arent right, but most people are not going to cook everyday, they are not going to make their own bread, grow a garden etc....so they are going to choose based on price and convenience.

if you want to completely rid yourself of these things, grow a garden, hunt your own food, by beef/chicken direct from the farm, make your own bread, pasta, etc...

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I don’t understand why you are being hostile. The only reason I brought any of this up is because I saw a clear and recent contrast to this system on a broad scale.

What do you do for a living?

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i wasnt being hostile. im saying...we have the same food system if you want to eat only whole foods.

most people dont.

on a broad scale we should prolly worry about obesity first before worrying about little things

and im an engineer

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He's very narcissistic re: fitness. Great on some things and shite on others (like this topic).

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how am i shite on this topic? and please name one time ever i have been narcissistic. I am anything but.

being into fitness doesnt make you a narcissistic, it means you actually care enough to take care of yourself. To be there for your kids etc.

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Apparently you can't read. I eat a protein bar for lunch with about 15 grams of protein. I usually eat about 2 chicken breasts for dinner (or some similar protein) which is 108 grams of protein.

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Apparently you can’t write. You didn’t say how many chicken breast that you eat, but yes, I’m saying that your aggregate protein is low.

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I disagree that it has to be difficult or expensive. I'll give you an example of a typical workday meal for me:

Breakfast: Whole grain oatmeal (not instant) cooked on a stove with two tablespoons of natural peanut butter (peanuts only, no other ingredients except salt).

Lunch: I eat a Sans meal bar Sans
These have very few ingredients and are all whole food ingredients with minimal processing. An organic apple or banana as well.

Dinner: Some sort of grilled protein (chicken breast, etc.) grilled in olive oil. Any fresh vegetables such as broccoli, cauliflower, etc. I usually have a small avocado as well.

My whole day cost about $10-$12 which is about the same as one single fast food combos.

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your diet is crap. you are lucky if you are getting 75g protein. laughably bad.

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roundup used to dry out wheat crops to initiate harvest?

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Not in North Alabama. Sounds like it would be slow. Paraquat would be better.

I’m sure it is used on a very small scale in specific weather related scenarios but putting glyphosate on wheat is not a common practice. I farm thousands of acres of wheat and do not personally know a single person who has put roundup over the top of wheat.

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Apparently you can’t write. You didn’t say how many chicken breast that you eat, but yes, I’m saying that your aggregate protein is low.

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The Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA) for protein is a modest 0.8 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight, or 0.36 grams per pound.
Harvard Article

I weigh 170 so for me that's about 61 grams. I am more than doubling that and on a typical workday I sit at a desk all day and don't burn many calories. I try to fit in a quick 30 minute workout if possible but it doesn't always happen.

How many grams of protein should the average 170 pound male eat per day? Are you honestly saying that 140 grams is low? I'm not a weight lifter and don't give a shite about gaining muscle. Most of my exercise is light cardio.

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It is a mystery to me how you are not realizing that this ties into my entire point with this thread topic.

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its not a mystery.

you are missing the whole point


if you want to avoid those things(which i think are a good thing to avoid, and i agree with Sao that even things like coloring arent great) then you can

what i am saying is 99% of the country doesnt want that. what they want is convivence first and foremost. then they want things to be cheaper. so the market adjust to what the majority of consumers want.

most in the US dont even get 100g of protein and average calorie consumption is 3540 cals and the average american gets 20 min or less of physical activity in a day


my point is....lets worry about those things first before we go off majoring in the minors.

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They do it just fine in Europe.

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Who do you think takes up all the slack in Europe? You do realize that they import a ton of their stuff from us and the world right?

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You don't think they use that stuff in Europe?

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I'm sure they do in some areas. That's irrelevant. You said "grain is grain" which is obviously false.