re: For the married OTers, do you do girls trips or guys trips?

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Just begging for trouble. There's almost always a scandal or some sort of drama as a result.

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Then you and your spouse should have better people around them.

Not married yet, but he has a pre-existing annual trip with some guys he grew up with for a weekend at one of their lake house. I’ve gone on weekend trips at this point with friends and family without him.

Every 2 years. Friend group has been dispersed across the country over the years. Girls pick a city and stay in a VRBO. We go on a backpacking trip to one of the national parks.

I have an annual guys ski trip. Wife doesn’t like skiing so she’s cool with it.

My group is all mid 40’s. The perfect trip for us is skiing, beer, food, bourbon and an early bedtime

We ain’t trying to chase tail

Wife goes on a girls trip that usually involves married women who are militantly loyal to their men.

Neither of us feel the need to go buck wild anymore and would rather chill times with good people

Just once in a while a long time ago but not lately.

Wife doesn't go on chicks trips.

My sister and BIL go to the uncle's house for a week, same place, same time of year. Other than that they don't agree on where to go so they don't go anywhere.

A buddy and his wife took primarily separate vacations...they didn't last very long.

Absolutely, they are called hunting trips. Mostly chase ducks. Okie, Kansas, and Arkansas were previous destinations. Going to Canada this year. Wife goes on a trip once a year with her friends from high school. One of them is pretty loaded (married well above her pay grade) so they usually go to her condo in OB but maybe every other year they go to Mexico. A few of them are bat shite crazy and full of drama. Obviously divorced and pissed at all men.

Camping or out-of-town ball games with friends, my dad, or my son. Nothing intentionally involving women though.

Yes a couple a year . Usually involves hunting , fishing or a sporting event . Me and my wife do a lot of trips together but we have all girl and all guy trips too. It’s pretty healthy and common

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With normal friends - yes
With trashy skanks - no

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I'll bump this. Dudes know which one of their friends like coke, or staying up too late than a 35+ year old should. No, I don't want to hire strippers, dude. Women know which of their friends are going to invite dudes back to your VRBO.

However, any trip that mixes sexes involves "queens" (not directed at you or BluegrassBelle) working the men like dogs, usually due to lack of prep and planning. Guys have problems on guy trips, it's who didn't put enough beer on ice. Women have problems, it's different, and it's your fault, even if the man isn't there.

My best guess to OP (which will not work) is to establish guardrails, and not get pissed when she blows them out of the water. You're pissing in the woods while she's getting lapdances in Nashville, but somehow same/same in her head?

Oh, the OP is a man

Wife does sometimes, I have hunting season and fishing with friends etc so ends up being a lot more than she does