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Electric Cars - the biggest scam?
Posted by tadman
on 8/3/21 at 5:04 pm
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82I don't get electric cars. Every automaker is doing this feelgood bs of claiming they're going all electric by 2030 or something.
1. You need a very expensive charger in your house
2. Your city/neighborhood does not have the grid capacity
3. There are not half enough power plants
4. We can't pull our heads out of our asses to decide what kind of power plants are safe to build (coal=bad nuke=war natgas=fracking)
5. Virtually the entire supply chain for batteries comes from unfriendly nations
From start to finish it is a fatally flawed model.
Also, far as I'm concerned, the value of a premium brand is out the window. Porsche's race cars, Cadillac's V8 and tailfins, Mercedes' engineering... all means nothing. It's a giant golf cart.
1. You need a very expensive charger in your house
2. Your city/neighborhood does not have the grid capacity
3. There are not half enough power plants
4. We can't pull our heads out of our asses to decide what kind of power plants are safe to build (coal=bad nuke=war natgas=fracking)
5. Virtually the entire supply chain for batteries comes from unfriendly nations
From start to finish it is a fatally flawed model.
Also, far as I'm concerned, the value of a premium brand is out the window. Porsche's race cars, Cadillac's V8 and tailfins, Mercedes' engineering... all means nothing. It's a giant golf cart.
re: Electric Cars - the biggest scam?Posted by JohnnyKilroy 
on 8/3/21 at 5:05 pm to tadman
on 8/3/21 at 5:05 pm to tadmanOld man yells at cloud
re: Electric Cars - the biggest scam?Posted by LegendInMyMind 
on 8/3/21 at 5:06 pm to tadman
on 8/3/21 at 5:06 pm to tadmanquote:
claiming they're going all electric by 2030 or something.
They aren't.
EVs will continue to gain a foothold.
re: Electric Cars - the biggest scam?Posted by Mingo Was His NameO 
on 8/3/21 at 5:06 pm to TheOcean
on 8/3/21 at 5:06 pm to TheOceanquote:
Where are you getting this expensive home charger thing from?
Facebook meme shared by his neighbor from the trailer park
re: Electric Cars - the biggest scam?Posted by Big Gorilla on 8/3/21 at 5:07 pm to tadman
on 8/3/21 at 5:07 pm to tadmanAgree on some of the points, but have you ever been in a Tesla? I had a friend take me for a spin. It was legit fast with no gear ratio...all power.
I cant talk about the cities not having chargers as I will never visit any large shitehole city again.
I cant talk about the cities not having chargers as I will never visit any large shitehole city again.
re: Electric Cars - the biggest scam?Posted by USMEagles 
on 8/3/21 at 5:07 pm to JohnnyKilroy
on 8/3/21 at 5:07 pm to JohnnyKilroyquote:
Old man yells at cloud
Young man assumes change equals "progress" without asking toward what we are progressing.
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re: Electric Cars - the biggest scam?Posted by JohnnyKilroy on 8/3/21 at 5:09 pm to USMEagles
on 8/3/21 at 5:09 pm to USMEaglesquote:
Young man assumes change equals "progress" without asking toward what we are progressing.
Deep
re: Electric Cars - the biggest scam?Posted by VirgilCaine 
on 8/3/21 at 5:10 pm to tadman
on 8/3/21 at 5:10 pm to tadman
Nah it'll be fine.
quote:
I plug my tesla into the wall like a laptop. Where are you getting this expensive home charger thing from?
quote:
Here are some examples for recharging times: With a single onboard charger plugged into a standard 110-volt outlet, Tesla says you will get 5 miles of range for every hour of charging. From zero to 300 miles would take about 52 hours at that rate.
F-that....
re: Electric Cars - the biggest scam?Posted by PurpleKnight88 on 8/3/21 at 5:18 pm to tadman
on 8/3/21 at 5:18 pm to tadmanI don't get electric cars. Every automaker is doing this feelgood bs of claiming they're going all electric by 2030 or something.
1. You need a very expensive charger in your house (FALSE)
2. Your city/neighborhood does not have the grid capacity (FALSE)
3. There are not half enough power plants (FALSE)
4. We can't pull our heads out of our asses to decide what kind of power plants are safe to build (coal=bad nuke=war natgas=fracking) (TRUE ENOUGH)
5. Virtually the entire supply chain for batteries comes from unfriendly nations (70% from China so TRUE)
From start to finish it is a fatally flawed model. (FALSE).
1. You need a very expensive charger in your house (FALSE)
2. Your city/neighborhood does not have the grid capacity (FALSE)
3. There are not half enough power plants (FALSE)
4. We can't pull our heads out of our asses to decide what kind of power plants are safe to build (coal=bad nuke=war natgas=fracking) (TRUE ENOUGH)
5. Virtually the entire supply chain for batteries comes from unfriendly nations (70% from China so TRUE)
From start to finish it is a fatally flawed model. (FALSE).
re: Electric Cars - the biggest scam?Posted by Jax Teller on 8/3/21 at 5:19 pm to tadman
on 8/3/21 at 5:19 pm to tadmanEV’s don’t bother me. It’s a niche market opportunity I think is cool. If you want one, get one. And the Tesla is a fricking cool machine.
What does bother me is the overarching narrative that they must be the end all be all, and that the combustion engine should go the way of the dodo bird.
That’s what’s stupid. As you mentioned, it’s not sustainable in the least at this point nor anytime soon.
We didn’t abandon the horse and buggy when the Model-T was created. Nor did we abandon the prop plane when jet engines were created. You let the technology grow organically. The market will do what it will do when you let it live and breathe.
Democrats are stupid in everything they think, believe, and scream about when it comes to economics and how it works with their agendas. It’s pathetic.
What does bother me is the overarching narrative that they must be the end all be all, and that the combustion engine should go the way of the dodo bird.
That’s what’s stupid. As you mentioned, it’s not sustainable in the least at this point nor anytime soon.
We didn’t abandon the horse and buggy when the Model-T was created. Nor did we abandon the prop plane when jet engines were created. You let the technology grow organically. The market will do what it will do when you let it live and breathe.
Democrats are stupid in everything they think, believe, and scream about when it comes to economics and how it works with their agendas. It’s pathetic.
This post was edited on 8/3 at 6:40 pm
re: Electric Cars - the biggest scam?Posted by Fat and Happy on 8/3/21 at 5:22 pm to tadman
on 8/3/21 at 5:22 pm to tadmanThe easiest thing would just be running an electrical cord from your house to the plug in that the linemen use up by the wires
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