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re: Electric Cars - the biggest scam?

Posted on 8/3/21 at 7:05 pm to
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19273 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 7:05 pm to
The Green economy is largely a scam that plays on peoples desire to get along, and be nice. And it benefits politically connected people.

It works as a tax on business, and in the case of carbon taxes, it is a tax, and connected people get very rich of it.

ESG ratings are the same scam.
This post was edited on 8/3/21 at 7:08 pm
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
Member since Jul 2013
11427 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 7:13 pm to
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Buys 50k car, can't afford $600 charger. Decent electric cars aren't for poor people. Go figure.



$50K is not that expensive for an automobile. I believe the AVERAGE vehicle price in the USA is around $37K…if they can get financing, the poors you speak of will have $50K autos all day.
Posted by Cycledude
Member since Jul 2018
1718 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 7:18 pm to
I wish I could afford one. I’d have a Tesla and an electric F-150 if I could afford it. They will get less expensive in time. Kind of like flat screen HD TVs were expensive when they first came out.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68690 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 7:24 pm to
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plug my tesla into the wall like a laptop. Where are you getting this expensive home charger thing from?


What wall?

I live in Nola where a lot of homes have street parking only.

So let's figure this out. How could every car in Nola be charged and what happens when you have to park on another block?

Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59676 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 7:27 pm to
Pelicans fan speaks jibberish
Posted by LSUtriarch
Orange County, CA
Member since Feb 2007
58 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 7:27 pm to
1. False
2. False - But i have solar to power mine up.
3. False
4. True but has nothing to do with EV's
5. Mostly True

As for premium brands, here is my Porsche EV. If you ride in it you will definitely not think it is a golf cart. The german engineering is absolutely incredible. Handles like any other Porsche and is even faster.

Posted by Cycledude
Member since Jul 2018
1718 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 7:28 pm to
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How could every car in Nola be charged and what happens when you have to park on another block?
well I guess you don’t buy an electric car if you don’t have a place to charge it.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13905 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 7:30 pm to
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Electric Cars - the biggest scam?
YES!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28709 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 7:32 pm to
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So let's figure this out. How could every car in Nola be charged and what happens when you have to park on another block?
If you cannot secure a steady supply of the power source for something, you probably shouldn't buy it. So that part is easy to figure out.

That said, if your place of employment and your regular destinations offer charging, an EV could still be viable for you.

Looking to the future, more and more cities are considering curbside charging infrastructure. Obviously some cities will lag behind.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13905 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 7:32 pm to
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Democrats are stupid in everything they think, believe, and scream about when it comes to economics and how it works with their agendas. It’s pathetic.
Aka idealism
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119234 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 7:33 pm to
So brave
This post was edited on 8/3/21 at 7:41 pm
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 7:35 pm to
[quote]Correct, which is certainly not "very expensive"[/quote

The $600 bucks is for the connector only, does not includes other needed materials like wire, breaker, conduit, electricians time, and pulling permits if necessary.

At my house just the wire will cost over $350 bucks, other material, labor, ang the $600.00 outlet and it is $2k easily.
This post was edited on 8/3/21 at 7:48 pm
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 7:37 pm to
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If you charge at work, I think most places let you do it for free.


Right now it’s free, businesses that allow plugging into their power in parking garages are starting to look at what it’s costing them. My DIL works in a Seattle office building, they are going to institute a flat fee for those that charge while at work. In addition to a parking permit, if the car is plugged in it will require having another permit indicating they paid up.
This post was edited on 8/3/21 at 7:43 pm
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39388 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 7:38 pm to
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Old man yells at cloud

It was exactly the opposite of that. He had well thought out reasons.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30807 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 7:41 pm to
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Right now it’s free, businesses that allow plugging into their power in parking garages are starting to look at what it’s costing them.


I bet they shut it down quickly once they get like 10. Sure some companies probably wont care, but most will just not put them in when they realize the freeloaders are just wasting company resources.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17042 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 7:46 pm to
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2. Your city/neighborhood does not have the grid capacity


Is this really an issue? I mean an EV charger is just a standard 240V outlet (like your oven) if memory serves. And they run at 32 amps or so. 240x32 = 7.7kW. That's not a ton of wattage and would cost less than $1 assuming 10 cents/kw. Even the higher amp chargers won't cost much more than that.

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4. We can't pull our heads out of our asses to decide what kind of power plants are safe to build (coal=bad nuke=war natgas=fracking)


I agree with this. We should build only nuclear from here forward, imo.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77492 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 8:03 pm to
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The $600 bucks is for the connector only, does not includes other needed materials like wire, breaker, conduit, electricians time, and pulling permits if necessary.

At my house just the wire will cost over $350 bucks, other material, labor, ang the $600.00 outlet and it is $2k easily.

You are getting a shitty deal. It cost me $700 total for the tesla wall charger, 240v outlet, and cable to be installed. If you have entergy, they are offering a rebate to cover half of that $600 cost for the wall charger. It charges my tesla at 55 miles per hour.
Also to those asking. Older teslas, pre 2018 get free charging at super charging stations. Newer ones pay like between $6-$10 to charge up. If you stay at a hotel or something like that, they are covering the cost of the charge in my experience
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
12178 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 8:05 pm to
Good luck getting across the ‘new bridge’ at 5:00pm without your battery going dead.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77492 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 8:08 pm to
How would it go dead on the bridge?
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31158 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 8:09 pm to
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5. Virtually the entire supply chain for batteries comes from unfriendly nations (70% from China so TRUE)


Standard Lithium finna change that, baws
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