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re: EBR Superintendent opposes St. George School System
Posted on 4/29/26 at 5:07 pm to chalmetteowl
Posted on 4/29/26 at 5:07 pm to chalmetteowl
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I don't agree with St George incorporating and trimming a section out of BR
St. George was never part of BR
It’s amazing this misconception still gets pushed.
When i went to LSU from out of state at the time i thought it funny that BR left that up that “old” entering BR sign westbound on i12 somewhere around maybe Jefferson/Essen, but I was new to BR and had no clue that much of what I thought was BR actually wasn’t. Being one street over for some areas and having the same “mayor” (or actually parish president for StG area back then) helped fool me.
So i get people moving into the area not knowing this initially and how the Better Together took advantage of people’s misconceptions, but after 7 years of hearing or reading about the unincorporated area trying to incorporate regardless of the political “breakaway” and “secession” BS played up by Broome, her cronies, and some liberal media outlets it surprises me that there are some who still genuinely believe StG was a part of BR.
This post was edited on 4/29/26 at 5:14 pm
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 5:21 pm to TooncesAndOmar
I'll tell you ONE THING FOR SURE....Baton Rouge tax payers DO NOT WANT any school system as POORLY run as the EBR school system ! ANY attempt to IMPROVE the local educational system, even if it's from the base up...is a FAR BETTER OPTION than ANYTHING, currently in place !!!
Posted on 4/29/26 at 6:19 pm to MrJimBeam
I wish this were so, and this would make the most intuitive sense... But the law states you must be enrolled in that school when the law becomes effective. Enrollment doesn't happen until the school year starts. So 2026 kindergartners are not grandfathered in.
Here is where it states that in the law:
"(B) A student in kindergarten through fifth grade may remain enrolled in the school attended on the effective date of this Act until the completion of fifth grade, and a student in sixth through eighth grade may remain enrolled in the school attended on the effective date of this Act until the completion of eighth grade."
The effective date is established in the next section:
"Section 5. This Act shall take effect and become operative if and when a proposed amendment [Amendment 2 we are voting on on May 16th] to Article VIII, Section 13(D)(1) of the Constitution of Louisiana is adopted at a statewide election and which amendment authorizes the St. George Community School System, as created in this Act or authorizes the creation of school districts by legislative act, as a system to be regarded and treated as a parish and have the authority granted to a parish school system as provided in Article VIII, Section 13 of the Constitution of Louisiana."
Here is where it states that in the law:
"(B) A student in kindergarten through fifth grade may remain enrolled in the school attended on the effective date of this Act until the completion of fifth grade, and a student in sixth through eighth grade may remain enrolled in the school attended on the effective date of this Act until the completion of eighth grade."
The effective date is established in the next section:
"Section 5. This Act shall take effect and become operative if and when a proposed amendment [Amendment 2 we are voting on on May 16th] to Article VIII, Section 13(D)(1) of the Constitution of Louisiana is adopted at a statewide election and which amendment authorizes the St. George Community School System, as created in this Act or authorizes the creation of school districts by legislative act, as a system to be regarded and treated as a parish and have the authority granted to a parish school system as provided in Article VIII, Section 13 of the Constitution of Louisiana."
Posted on 4/29/26 at 6:50 pm to Skenes
District test scores will plummet without all the white kids in the StG area. EBR is gonna be on par with Baker
Posted on 4/29/26 at 6:55 pm to moontigr
There will still be some white kids from BR in the magnet programs but, yeah, scores for the non-magnet programs are going to crater IMHO.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 7:15 pm to SPEEDY
Zachary’s success was predicated on its distance from BR. It was far enough away to avoid forced busing, and it was already integrated, and the minority population was relatively small, around 15-20%. It was also far enough away from all the private schools that white flight didn’t hurt them. Plus Jerry Boudreaux provided great leadership. Jerry Epperson and Ritchie Bullock had already retired from Baker High when that district broke off.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 8:18 pm to TooncesAndOmar
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But the law states you must be enrolled in that school when the law becomes effective. Enrollment doesn't happen until the school year starts. So 2026 kindergartners are not grandfathered in.
You mentioned your kids are happy in current school, so do you have another kid starting kindergarten in the fall 2026?
Also though not guaranteed if not enrolled at effective date and may be an annual process, but transfers also appear to be possible based on whatever the districts agree on. Also, Magnets and charters will be available in both directions.
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M. The East Baton Rouge Parish School System and the St. George Community School System shall enter into an agreement with respect to the transfer of students between the school system that does all of the following:
(1) Allows any student who is domiciled in the city of St. George to enroll and attend a school in the adjoining school system of East Baton Rouge Parish, pursuant to R.S. 17:105.1.
(2) Provides that any student who resides within the boundaries of the St. George Community School System or the East Baton Rouge Parish School System may enroll in any charter school located within the geographical boundaries of East Baton Rouge Parish.
(3) Provides that any student who is living within the geographic boundaries of the St. George Community School System shall be allowed to attend any magnet program at a school with selective enrollment that is located within the boundaries of the East Baton Rouge Parish School System, without regard to attendance zones, so long as the student meets the selective admission's requirements and maintains the academic standards of the magnet program.
(4) Provides that any student who is living within the geographic boundaries of the East Baton Rouge Parish School System shall be allowed to attend any magnet program at a school with selective enrollment that is located within the boundaries of the St. George Community School System, without regard to attendance zones, so long as the student meets the selective admission's requirements and maintains the academic standards of the magnet program.
(5) Provides that any new applicant to a magnet program or a charter school shall not displace any student who is already on the waiting list to attend that magnet program or charter school, regardless of where the student resides in East Baton Rouge Parish.
(6) Provides that the school which accepts a student that is transferred in compliance with the agreement shall receive the local per pupil and state Minimum Foundation Program funds, pursuant to R.S. 17:105, so that the money follows that student to the chosen school.
N.(1) Except as provided in Subsection M of this Section, nothing in this Section shall be construed to interfere or circumvent the rights of either school system that are established by law as it relates to attendance zones.
(2) Nothing in Subsection M of this Section shall prohibit the East Baton Rouge Parish School System or the St. George Community School System from creating enrollment preferences that may prioritize qualified students who reside within the district boundaries of its school system.
And as far as your concern about the board being appointed by the gov.
The interim have to be locals and are from lists provided by Rep and Senators.
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B.(1) The interim school board shall be composed of seven members appointed at large as provided in Subsection C of this Section. An interim school board member shall have attained the age of eighteen, have resided in the state for the two years preceding appointment, have been domiciled within the geographic boundaries of the school system for at least one year preceding appointment, meet the qualifications provided in R.S. 17:52, be an elector and reside within the geographic boundaries of the school system.
(2) Membership on the interim school board shall not disqualify an otherwise eligible person from qualifying as a candidate for election as a member of the St. George Community School Board.
C.(1) All seven members of the interim school board shall be appointed by the governor within thirty days after the effective date of this Act and shall serve until the initial members of the St. George Community School Board are elected, as provided in R.S. 17:68.1, and take office.
(2) Members appointed by the governor shall be from a list of nominees provided as follows:
(a) The members of the Louisiana Senate elected from district numbers six, fourteen, and sixteen shall each nominate three persons meeting the qualifications for office for each position to be appointed by the governor.
(b) The members of the Louisiana House of Representatives elected from district numbers sixty-five, sixty-six, sixty-eight, sixty-nine, and seventy shall each nominate two persons meeting the qualifications for office for each position to be appointed by the governor.
(3) A vacancy on the interim school board shall be filled in the same manner as the original appointmen
The elected board has to be in place before the district starts educating kids. The interim board can still assist the elected board for set time frame if requested.
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The initial members of the St. George Community School Board shall be elected at the time and place as provided by law and the election shall occur prior to the date that the St. George Community School Board begins the actual operation of educating students within its jurisdiction as a separate school system.
This post was edited on 4/29/26 at 9:42 pm
Posted on 4/29/26 at 10:05 pm to Skenes
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“What are you going to offer them to ask them to stay? What will your retirement system look like? Will you be able to transfer your years of experience from EBR over to St. George, no you won’t, so you’ll be asking them to start all over,” Reams-Brown said.
Yeah, none of this affected by teachers switching over. You can bring everything over in terms of your teacher’s retirement and years experience. The only thing that may be affected is insurance when you retire. A teacher without enough years in a specific parish isn’t always free to keep their health insurance upon retirement.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 8:31 am to Geauxgurt
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automatically make better teachers than those trained in education.
Teachers are the absolute worst at this peacocking bullshite. The class in curriculum design I took? Worthless, state sets the curriculum. Test design and performance measurement class? Worthless, the district has a service for tests. Classroom management class? Worthless, judging by how out of fricking control 1/2 of the classes in a rich school district are. But magically, when their elementary ed teachers shut the hell up and let me run the class, they behave.
The barriers to entry in teaching, particularly in LA, are intentionally there to protect mouth breathing idiot teachers. Is it likely that a retired chemical engineer from Dow can explain basic chemistry to high school kids in more varied ways than an elementary ed grad that last took chemistry in high school? Probably. But can't have that competition to make you look bad.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:28 am to andwesway
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It's going to pass.
I’m not so sure. The “NO” side is very loud.
I don’t feel like St. George is doing a good enough job at dispelling rumors or making their case. They should be harping on how mismanaged EBRPSS is referencing all those numbers I posted a few pages back.
Either way, this has to pass statewide AND parish. I’m a little concerned about parish vote.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 10:01 am to SoggyCerealClub
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Can't go through a divorce if you were never married, Chief.
I’d say it was more like a hostage situation!
If it doesn’t pass, I don’t think it will go as well for BR as they think. They will have pissed off a very large populous of the parish who are of a demographic that actually votes. Won’t take much for STG folks to vote down any EBRSS millage increases or anything other thing they want to fleece us for. I’m in STG, I’m voting yes. If it fails, I’ll vote against funding anything EBRSS related going fwd.
I’m forced to pay private tuition to get my kids a decent education. I’d like the rest of my city to have a school system where their children can get a good education and not have to pay for private. EBRSS couldn’t fix itself if we gave them all of the tax revenue the city and state collects.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 10:08 am to td1
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I’ll vote against funding anything EBRSS related going fwd.
I already do this.
They take 1/3rd of my property tax bill and still claim they are underfunded. Yet admin pay has risen 17% in the last 5 years.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 10:28 am to mthorn2
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The schools exist because the tax payers of the area paid their taxes. Just because the area is now incorporated doesn't mean they didn't fund those taxes to build the schools. St George has as much right to the real estate as the EBR School Board...which is why EBR is giving the realestate to them in exchange for their relinquished ownership rights to all the other schools in the parish. This is the same thing that happened in Zachary. Its a fair trade.
Now if we could only do this with BREC and St. George have their own Parks and Rec department and take over the BREC parks in the St. George city limits..........
Posted on 4/30/26 at 11:08 am to Mung
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Zachary’s success was predicated on its distance from BR. It was far enough away to avoid forced busing, and it was already integrated, and the minority population was relatively small, around 15-20%. It was also far enough away from all the private schools that white flight didn’t hurt them. Plus Jerry Boudreaux provided great leadership.
All of this. Zachary was for all intents and purposes an independent school system even though it was part of EBRSS. Mr. Boudreaux was a huge part of the success of the school. The right leader can truly elevate an entire school. I wonder how he would fare in today’s environment?
Posted on 4/30/26 at 12:08 pm to SoggyCerealClub
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Why not? They PAY for those schools.
But they won't pay for the schools outside of St. George once the St. George School System is in effect. So they should not be allowed to attend schools in the EBR school district.
That said, I think EBR should continue to allow those students to cross district lines, but the St. George School Systems should compensate EBRPSS for each student, (and vice versa).
This post was edited on 4/30/26 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 4/30/26 at 12:43 pm to BR Tiger
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All of this. Zachary was for all intents and purposes an independent school system even though it was part of EBRSS. Mr. Boudreaux was a huge part of the success of the school. The right leader can truly elevate an entire school. I wonder how he would fare in today’s environment?
How much of Zachary’s current situation that some think could start causing issues is due to having to include so much area outside of the city limits and falling under the parish’s planning/development and code boards or standards? Has development outside of the city limits but inside the school district brought in more problems?
Posted on 4/30/26 at 12:44 pm to SoggyCerealClub
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Yet admin pay has risen 17% in the last 5 years.
One of the problems schools have, is that they blindly chase federal funding for special needs kids, etc., and don't pay attention to the strings that are attached.
Here's extra money for the four SPED kids in each class, but you need to hire a SPED curriculum analyzer for every 25 of the SPED kids, you need an additional nurse on staff specifically certified in earmuff application, etc.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 2:07 pm to Skenes
lol saw this on facebook 
Posted on 4/30/26 at 2:15 pm to Skenes
It’s not their problem anymore
Posted on 4/30/26 at 2:15 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
I agree which is why I think the agreement with the magnet schools is fair. Allow the kids that are already there to finish out 5th, 8th & HS.
If I’m a parent to a kid that didn’t get into the magnet program and am forced to send my kid to EBR public school, I’m voting yes. As I stated in previous posts, St. George kids only make up about 13% of the EBRPSS student population but they take 35% of the magnet seats.
If I’m a parent to a kid that didn’t get into the magnet program and am forced to send my kid to EBR public school, I’m voting yes. As I stated in previous posts, St. George kids only make up about 13% of the EBRPSS student population but they take 35% of the magnet seats.
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