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re: Laylow Letlow
Posted by TooncesAndOmar on 10/13/26 at 4:46 pm to ThuperThumpin
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I just assume vote D and send a message
TBH Jamie Davis seems like a very decent man. Reminds me of southern democrats of years past.
Agreed. Its funny because the alternate universe is not too far away from our current one where Jamie Davis keeps all his same political positions but just runs as an (R) and then becomes the runaway favorite.
re: Laylow Letlow
Posted by TooncesAndOmar on 10/13/26 at 2:16 pm to ErectileReptile
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Debates should be mandatory.
Yes, this would be very helpful. This is what a could get ChatGPT to summarize for me. Would love to hear them actually discuss these in a debate.
What the differences mean in practice
- Abortion: Letlow supports an anti-abortion agenda, while Davis supports restoring federal abortion protections.
- Data centers and carbon capture: Letlow is more open to industrial development with safeguards; Davis favors tighter restrictions on projects, eminent domain, and corporate subsidies.
- NDAs and transparency: Davis explicitly opposes secret government agreements with private companies; Letlow’s signing of an NDA related to Meta’s proposed data center has raised transparency concerns.
- Tax policy: Davis wants to reverse portions of the 2025 tax law that he believes disproportionately benefit billionaires and corporations; Letlow generally supports the Republican tax agenda.
- Congressional stock trading: Letlow has faced scrutiny over hundreds of late-reported stock transactions; her office blamed her financial adviser. Late disclosures raise accountability concerns but do not, by themselves, prove insider trading. Davis has no congressional trading record, and I haven’t verified either candidate’s position on a comprehensive trading ban.
- Farmers and farm subsidies: Both support crop insurance and disaster aid, but Davis emphasizes production-cost-based farm payments, lowering fertilizer and diesel costs, and protecting farmers from retaliatory tariffs and corporate consolidation. Letlow emphasizes a strong Farm Bill, disaster assistance, agricultural research, rural credit, and protecting family farms.
- Energy and oil-and-gas jobs (Louisiana-specific): Letlow strongly supports expanding offshore drilling, LNG exports, and oil-and-gas production to protect Louisiana energy jobs. Davis emphasizes energy costs and opposes carbon-capture pipelines that can take private land through eminent domain, creating a sharper contrast over how industrial development should proceed.
Laylow Letlow
Posted by TooncesAndOmar on 10/13/26 at 8:44 am
I get that in Louisiana laying low is the best campaign strategy, but should we expect a candidate to work a little harder for our vote? NDAs and carbon capture kickbacks should at least be something she should address to constituents.
None of this means that you vote for a (D), but does the lack of talk about her (at least here in BR), speak more to how no one knows anything about her, how apathetic voters are on her, or that she just doesn't have much to say?
Fleming always had an uphill battle to win, but he worked incredibly hard and was very visible and outspoken on the issues he cared about.
None of this means that you vote for a (D), but does the lack of talk about her (at least here in BR), speak more to how no one knows anything about her, how apathetic voters are on her, or that she just doesn't have much to say?
Fleming always had an uphill battle to win, but he worked incredibly hard and was very visible and outspoken on the issues he cared about.
re: Where did Weston Broome say "you must incorporate as a city first..."?
Posted by TooncesAndOmar on 5/19/26 at 6:00 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
If she said it, I knew it would be from when she was in the legislature. I am asking for the direct quote from her.
Army - great find on that article. I look forward to reading that as it looks like it has a pretty detailed history of the school system/city incorporation. Funny how a lot of that predicted in 2013-2016 did come true.
It is easy to connect the dots: Bakery, Zachary, and Central were well established communities first THEN they got their school district, thus I can see St. George leaders saying, "Ok, then, we will too."
But many people blame/attribute this to Weston Broome kind of as a "alright then, we will!" to get back at her. I just don't see that it came from her.
Army - great find on that article. I look forward to reading that as it looks like it has a pretty detailed history of the school system/city incorporation. Funny how a lot of that predicted in 2013-2016 did come true.
It is easy to connect the dots: Bakery, Zachary, and Central were well established communities first THEN they got their school district, thus I can see St. George leaders saying, "Ok, then, we will too."
But many people blame/attribute this to Weston Broome kind of as a "alright then, we will!" to get back at her. I just don't see that it came from her.
re: Where did Weston Broome say "you must incorporate as a city first..."?
Posted by TooncesAndOmar on 5/18/26 at 9:38 pm to armytiger96
That is what I have heard, but can someone find the quote. Admittedly, I am not going to listen to how ever many hours of recorded legislative debate if it is even there. I figured someone here would have the exact source since it is discussed so much.
Where did Weston Broome say "you must incorporate as a city first..."?
Posted by TooncesAndOmar on 5/18/26 at 9:25 pm
I have been reading a lot of the explanations from StG folks about why Amendment 2 failed so significantly state wide and parish wide. And I see people still bring up Weston Broome stating, "start your own city and then you can get your school district." This story has become part of the mythos of the City of St. George.
I do think this is an interesting part of the history, but I can't find any quote where she said this. I have found a lot of quotes of people saying she said this (one reference comes from the Sadvocate) and many references from replies on TD and Facebook, etc... I know the Sadvocate is Real. Fake News. but the article is based on some kind of truth, right?
I wasn't paying any attention to the SE School District in 2013, so can someone here who was around then direct me to where she specifically said this?
I do think this is an interesting part of the history, but I can't find any quote where she said this. I have found a lot of quotes of people saying she said this (one reference comes from the Sadvocate) and many references from replies on TD and Facebook, etc... I know the Sadvocate is Real. Fake News. but the article is based on some kind of truth, right?
I wasn't paying any attention to the SE School District in 2013, so can someone here who was around then direct me to where she specifically said this?
re: Constitutional amendments on the ballot. Let’s discuss.
Posted by TooncesAndOmar on 5/15/26 at 8:48 pm to arseinclarse
No on all
Maybe after two straight years of failed amendments our legislators will finally realize the LA constitution is too big. Call a convention and rebuild it from the ground up.
Maybe after two straight years of failed amendments our legislators will finally realize the LA constitution is too big. Call a convention and rebuild it from the ground up.
re: Does anyone know what happens to St. George students who want to stay in EBRSS schools?
Posted by TooncesAndOmar on 5/7/26 at 12:49 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
:cheers:
re: Does anyone know what happens to St. George students who want to stay in EBRSS schools?
Posted by TooncesAndOmar on 5/7/26 at 12:30 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
The Whiskey Rebellion would then also like to have a chat with you. Lol. Funny how things change once you get power.
You and I agree about taxes. I would prefer I had full control over my tax dollars (i.e. didn't pay them), but I also know that there are many good reasons to pay taxes. That does mean there is some loss of control, and many good reasons to complain when my taxes aren't being spent wisely.
So then paying taxes is based on trust. I would trust St. George more with more details of a plan. I am advocating hard for a NO because I don't want my kids to be the experiment. St. George may have the best schools, so why not just take some more time to ease parents worries?
I want the NO vote to mean, "No, we do not trust you blindly. Listen to parents more. Then lets vote."
You and I agree about taxes. I would prefer I had full control over my tax dollars (i.e. didn't pay them), but I also know that there are many good reasons to pay taxes. That does mean there is some loss of control, and many good reasons to complain when my taxes aren't being spent wisely.
So then paying taxes is based on trust. I would trust St. George more with more details of a plan. I am advocating hard for a NO because I don't want my kids to be the experiment. St. George may have the best schools, so why not just take some more time to ease parents worries?
I want the NO vote to mean, "No, we do not trust you blindly. Listen to parents more. Then lets vote."
re: Does anyone know what happens to St. George students who want to stay in EBRSS schools?
Posted by TooncesAndOmar on 5/7/26 at 11:23 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
That is how it worked out in the case with St. George. But my point was not the legal details in how to create a new city. My point was that those who pay more into any tax system - no matter the size or wealth - will always be able to say, "I am not getting my fair share in return." So just saying "they pay 25% of the funds so they should get [x] in return" is not enough of a reason on its own to justify a whole new school district (or city).
I think the bar needs to be higher especially when you are trying to convince voters. St. George was successful doing this for the city.
Also, not having a school board doesn't prevent leadership from giving some actual details that could help voters make a decision. Right now the message is, "EBR has done a terrible jobs for years; local control of tax dollars is better; we will have better schools; trust us." I don't mean for this to sound as snarky as it sounds, but these are actual quotes from the Mayor.
I think the bar needs to be higher especially when you are trying to convince voters. St. George was successful doing this for the city.
Also, not having a school board doesn't prevent leadership from giving some actual details that could help voters make a decision. Right now the message is, "EBR has done a terrible jobs for years; local control of tax dollars is better; we will have better schools; trust us." I don't mean for this to sound as snarky as it sounds, but these are actual quotes from the Mayor.
re: Does anyone know what happens to St. George students who want to stay in EBRSS schools?
Posted by TooncesAndOmar on 5/7/26 at 11:03 am to SoggyCerealClub
I hear you, but I don't think your reasoning holds when you apply it here.
Students didn't flee public schools in 1981 because a judge ruled for the schools to turn academically ineffective overnight.
Also, I fully agree with local control of taxes, but how do you define local? In any geographical group there will be those with 'more' funding services for those with 'less.' Nothing is stopping the wealthiest 25% of the current city of St. George from creating their own city in 25 years for 'local' control.
Now how those funds are used, transparency, accountability is another very legitimate discussion to have.
Chicken or the egg is correct. Nuance.
Students didn't flee public schools in 1981 because a judge ruled for the schools to turn academically ineffective overnight.
Also, I fully agree with local control of taxes, but how do you define local? In any geographical group there will be those with 'more' funding services for those with 'less.' Nothing is stopping the wealthiest 25% of the current city of St. George from creating their own city in 25 years for 'local' control.
Now how those funds are used, transparency, accountability is another very legitimate discussion to have.
Chicken or the egg is correct. Nuance.
re: Does anyone know what happens to St. George students who want to stay in EBRSS schools?
Posted by TooncesAndOmar on 5/7/26 at 10:45 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
Two things can be true. EBR has not done a good job with the money and kids they have been entrusted with (with last year's realignment plan this is changing for the better). The other perspective is also why would EBR invest in an area where only a small percentage of those kids use the public school?
EBR public schools saw a significant drop in enrollment in the early 1980s when Judge Parker ordered mandated busing in 1981 to comply with federal desegregation orders. Who were the kids that left EBR public schools? Where did they go? Look at the creation dates of many of the private schools in the area. Look at who attends those schools. Magnet schools were created to "attract" those families who left back into the public schools.
The history shows there is a lot more nuance here, but the history is still important.
doubleb - thank you for sharing that and you have personal experience. All I can do is speak to the historical facts. Listening to everyone's story is really important.
EBR public schools saw a significant drop in enrollment in the early 1980s when Judge Parker ordered mandated busing in 1981 to comply with federal desegregation orders. Who were the kids that left EBR public schools? Where did they go? Look at the creation dates of many of the private schools in the area. Look at who attends those schools. Magnet schools were created to "attract" those families who left back into the public schools.
The history shows there is a lot more nuance here, but the history is still important.
doubleb - thank you for sharing that and you have personal experience. All I can do is speak to the historical facts. Listening to everyone's story is really important.
re: Does anyone know what happens to St. George students who want to stay in EBRSS schools?
Posted by TooncesAndOmar on 5/7/26 at 10:07 am to LSURussian
I have to rely on people much smarter than me to explain the MFP and the allocation algorithm. It factors in the size of the district because of economies of scale, etc. Especially true with special ed services. Then you add in property taxes, legacy costs…
Also, the money will follow the student but that isn’t the whole picture. Not all dollars are the same because of money already spent on services and infrastructure and teacher pay at that specific school.
Also, the money will follow the student but that isn’t the whole picture. Not all dollars are the same because of money already spent on services and infrastructure and teacher pay at that specific school.
re: Does anyone know what happens to St. George students who want to stay in EBRSS schools?
Posted by TooncesAndOmar on 5/7/26 at 9:43 am to jasonbr1975
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Could someone shed light on the amendment for/against? I don’t see why the entire state has to vote on something in St. George/EBR PH.
The way it sounds is that St. George wants special treatment, but not sure.
It does make sense because all school districts get funds from the state MFP which comes from all of our taxes across the state. St. George School District would add another slice to the pie.
Big misconception that this is only a local issue. The school district is local but the funding is not. Every Louisiana tax payer deserves a say.
re: Does anyone know what happens to St. George students who want to stay in EBRSS schools?
Posted by TooncesAndOmar on 5/7/26 at 7:19 am to dallastigers
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You keep talking about tax increases for both the city and any future school district without proving they happening outside of your negative & scared outlook on change.
1. Senator Edmonds, who coauthored the StG School bill last year states in his fiscal note, "the school system may have to increase revenues through additional taxes to meet expenditure needs in the future." Central and Zachary have raised taxes (and last year rejected an additional tax raise), so yes, independent school districts increase taxes.
You can read the other effects from Edmonds' fiscal note here:LINK
2. Mayor Yates has promised a tax cut if the school district passes.
LINK
St. George leadership can't keep their message straight.
People can dismiss my NO vote for whatever reason they want to. People can vote YES for any reason as well. But for any voter, please make an informed decision and don't rely on bad data or buzzy one-liners. This is too big of a change to rush it and not take the time to get it right from day one.
St. George deserves to have this vote and has every legal right to have a school district. But leadership needs to do a little bit more leg work than just "trust us." They want our tax money but don't even have accurate numbers for any kind of school district budget. I would think for 15 years and a whole lot of promises of fiscal responsibility they would do better.
(And this is important to state... it is not a either/or... a NO vote is also not an affirmation that EBR is doing a great job. They have many issues that I also give them hell about because it affects my kid as well. But two school districts right now is not good for either school district).
re: EBR Superintendent opposes St. George School System
Posted by TooncesAndOmar on 4/29/26 at 6:19 pm to MrJimBeam
I wish this were so, and this would make the most intuitive sense... But the law states you must be enrolled in that school when the law becomes effective. Enrollment doesn't happen until the school year starts. So 2026 kindergartners are not grandfathered in.
Here is where it states that in the law:
"(B) A student in kindergarten through fifth grade may remain enrolled in the school attended on the effective date of this Act until the completion of fifth grade, and a student in sixth through eighth grade may remain enrolled in the school attended on the effective date of this Act until the completion of eighth grade."
The effective date is established in the next section:
"Section 5. This Act shall take effect and become operative if and when a proposed amendment [Amendment 2 we are voting on on May 16th] to Article VIII, Section 13(D)(1) of the Constitution of Louisiana is adopted at a statewide election and which amendment authorizes the St. George Community School System, as created in this Act or authorizes the creation of school districts by legislative act, as a system to be regarded and treated as a parish and have the authority granted to a parish school system as provided in Article VIII, Section 13 of the Constitution of Louisiana."
Here is where it states that in the law:
"(B) A student in kindergarten through fifth grade may remain enrolled in the school attended on the effective date of this Act until the completion of fifth grade, and a student in sixth through eighth grade may remain enrolled in the school attended on the effective date of this Act until the completion of eighth grade."
The effective date is established in the next section:
"Section 5. This Act shall take effect and become operative if and when a proposed amendment [Amendment 2 we are voting on on May 16th] to Article VIII, Section 13(D)(1) of the Constitution of Louisiana is adopted at a statewide election and which amendment authorizes the St. George Community School System, as created in this Act or authorizes the creation of school districts by legislative act, as a system to be regarded and treated as a parish and have the authority granted to a parish school system as provided in Article VIII, Section 13 of the Constitution of Louisiana."
re: EBR Superintendent opposes St. George School System
Posted by TooncesAndOmar on 4/29/26 at 9:45 am to BugAC
Nice strawman that you built from my post. Message me directly if you actually want to engage.
At the end of the day, my kids are happy with their EBR public school. If Amendment 2 passes, incoming kindergartners will attend for one year, be unenrolled, and forced to attend a St. George school in 2027 (yes, how the law is written). So no that is not parental school choice.
St. George has always been about the schools. One year isn’t enough time to create a district and do it well. A vote NO is a vote for “not yet”. Take your time St. George to do it better.
At the end of the day, my kids are happy with their EBR public school. If Amendment 2 passes, incoming kindergartners will attend for one year, be unenrolled, and forced to attend a St. George school in 2027 (yes, how the law is written). So no that is not parental school choice.
St. George has always been about the schools. One year isn’t enough time to create a district and do it well. A vote NO is a vote for “not yet”. Take your time St. George to do it better.
re: EBR Superintendent opposes St. George School System
Posted by TooncesAndOmar on 4/29/26 at 7:21 am to RobbBobb
Thank you for an actual thoughtful response.
1. St. George likes to say this - “it is not our school district, it is YOUR school district.” Problem is the school board and superintendent who will be the first to actually make the new district are all appointed by the Governor.
2. That is the point. Teachers don’t know their salary. I prefer to not have the government and state legislators get involved and take my job away from me. I prefer to not have the government and state legislators get involved and force kids out of their schools. That is anti-conservative to me and not pro “school choice.”
3. I don’t think you thought this one through either. St. George school district literally does not exist yet. You mean if I move to a ‘different’ district…, then I can do my research and make accommodations. No parent or teacher can do that with St. George and St. George will be taking kids August 2027. Yet St. George wants our tax money. Just give some plan more than “trust us.”
4. Central and Zachary are still very different. Not sure anyone can argue that they are different sizes, located further away (not as much teacher/residence overlap, and have different demographics. Central and Zachary grew up and left the house as adults. St. George and EBR are going through a divorce.
1. St. George likes to say this - “it is not our school district, it is YOUR school district.” Problem is the school board and superintendent who will be the first to actually make the new district are all appointed by the Governor.
2. That is the point. Teachers don’t know their salary. I prefer to not have the government and state legislators get involved and take my job away from me. I prefer to not have the government and state legislators get involved and force kids out of their schools. That is anti-conservative to me and not pro “school choice.”
3. I don’t think you thought this one through either. St. George school district literally does not exist yet. You mean if I move to a ‘different’ district…, then I can do my research and make accommodations. No parent or teacher can do that with St. George and St. George will be taking kids August 2027. Yet St. George wants our tax money. Just give some plan more than “trust us.”
4. Central and Zachary are still very different. Not sure anyone can argue that they are different sizes, located further away (not as much teacher/residence overlap, and have different demographics. Central and Zachary grew up and left the house as adults. St. George and EBR are going through a divorce.
re: EBR Superintendent opposes St. George School System
Posted by TooncesAndOmar on 4/29/26 at 6:22 am to sharkfhin
Everything quoted are valid concerns if Amendment 2 passes. Would be very helpful for St. George leadership to release a plan to address this. Ease a lot of anxiety.
I am not a teacher in a could be St. George school but have friends who are. TRSL is run at the state level but your retirement amount is based off your salary. If you are in a St. George school what will your salary be?
Just because the money follows the kid (good!) doesn’t mean automatically you will have the same support structures in place in a brand new school district.
Also, Central and Zachary are not great comparisons. Think of district size, distance, and demographics. These shouldn’t be used as models for St. George/EBR.
I am not a teacher in a could be St. George school but have friends who are. TRSL is run at the state level but your retirement amount is based off your salary. If you are in a St. George school what will your salary be?
Just because the money follows the kid (good!) doesn’t mean automatically you will have the same support structures in place in a brand new school district.
Also, Central and Zachary are not great comparisons. Think of district size, distance, and demographics. These shouldn’t be used as models for St. George/EBR.
re: EBR Superintendent opposes St. George School System
Posted by TooncesAndOmar on 4/29/26 at 5:42 am to Skenes
EBR superintendent is Lamont Cole. Where is his quote?
St. George Public Schools - Who is Switching Their Kids?
Posted by TooncesAndOmar on 3/26/26 at 11:09 am
Here are the traditional public schools St. George will take control of if Amendment 2 passes on May 16th:
Jefferson Terrace Academy
Shenandoah Elementary
Woodlawn Elementary
Woodlawn Middle
Woodlawn Highschool
The St. George Community School System school year would start August of 2027.
Are your kids already enrolled in one of these schools or are you planning to switch them from private to public in 2027?
Jefferson Terrace Academy
Shenandoah Elementary
Woodlawn Elementary
Woodlawn Middle
Woodlawn Highschool
The St. George Community School System school year would start August of 2027.
Are your kids already enrolled in one of these schools or are you planning to switch them from private to public in 2027?
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