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Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:17 am to weagle99
How hard is it to stop at a 'stop sign'?
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:22 am to rgsa
It’s just silly to come to a complete stop at parking lot stop signs in an empty parking lot.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:50 am to SlapahoeTribe
quote:
asked a cop in lodge onetime about this and he said that he had looked for an actual written law/statute that applied to private property. He said he couldn’t find one
It's a fairly new law...only been around for a little over 50 years.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:12 am to weagle99
Like no parking signage too. I had some off duty go ballistic on me waiting for the missus outside the Publix on a Sunday after church. I stared at him with my window down while he ranted (serious gasket blow). I had our kids in the back seat, so I slowly drive away to calm him down.
He left. I came back. I don't think he goes to church regularly.
He left. I came back. I don't think he goes to church regularly.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:22 am to weagle99
only as far as a civil suit in fender bender if you blast through one, other then that, no they are not a legal road sign and you wont get ticketed for ignoring them as long as they are not entrance or exits connected to public roads
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:34 am to keakar
Not sure about Louisiana but in Alabama police have no authority to write traffic tickets on private property. What constitutes private property is based on who maintains it. So if the city maintains the Target/Best Buy shopping center parking lot, then yes they could write you a stop sign ticket.
In Alabama, Reckless Driving & DUI are only two situations where police can write a ticket anywhere, including private property. You could get a DUI on your family’s hunting land roads, golf course, etc.
In Alabama, Reckless Driving & DUI are only two situations where police can write a ticket anywhere, including private property. You could get a DUI on your family’s hunting land roads, golf course, etc.
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 11:37 am
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:26 pm to Crimson1L
Reckless driving and DUI are criminal offenses and apply to private property. Traffic laws do not apply private property.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:59 pm to weagle99
I’ve wondered this too, but always assumed they were worthless legally...just like the “slow” turtle signs in neighborhoods. I completely ignore them. Instead I choose to use my eyes to see if someone is crossing.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:50 pm to weagle99
I'm no expert on parking lot law, but it seems there is a distinction between signs that are required by statute/ordinance, i.e. handicapped parking spots and fire lanes, and signs that are put up at the discretion of the owner of the property. You can get a ticket for parking in a handicapped spot or the fire lance, but the police have no authority to enforce the rules that are at the discretion of the property owner.
A store close to my home has a serious fetish with reserving parking spaces near the entrance. In recent years they have added the following:
1. 1 space reserved for pregnant/expecting/new mothers (never seen anyone parked there)
2. 5 spaces reserved for electric cars (nobody respects this one, lots of gas guzzlers park there)
3. 1 space reserved for first responders/veterans (never seen anyone parked there)
4. 4 spaces reserved for carryout from their restaurant (never seen anyone parked there)
5. 8 handicapped spots (usually an able bodied younger person gets out of the car parked in one of the spots. I'm guessing they borrowed an elderly relative's vehicle that legitimately has a tag).
so including the 8 handicapped ones required by law this store has 19 spots reserved for whatever.
Nobody stops at the stop signs this place put up, either. It's basically a joke.
A store close to my home has a serious fetish with reserving parking spaces near the entrance. In recent years they have added the following:
1. 1 space reserved for pregnant/expecting/new mothers (never seen anyone parked there)
2. 5 spaces reserved for electric cars (nobody respects this one, lots of gas guzzlers park there)
3. 1 space reserved for first responders/veterans (never seen anyone parked there)
4. 4 spaces reserved for carryout from their restaurant (never seen anyone parked there)
5. 8 handicapped spots (usually an able bodied younger person gets out of the car parked in one of the spots. I'm guessing they borrowed an elderly relative's vehicle that legitimately has a tag).
so including the 8 handicapped ones required by law this store has 19 spots reserved for whatever.
Nobody stops at the stop signs this place put up, either. It's basically a joke.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 3:39 pm to weagle99
And in Alabama here, if an accident happens on private property, you are responsible for your own vehicle repair.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 3:46 pm to OldHickory
quote:
You can be cited for a traffic violation on private property
This.
You can't be cited for any normal traffic statue (speeding, stop sign, not using blinker, etc) on private property.
You can only be charged with crimal statues.
So, run a stop sign in a parking lot while you are drunk and hit a car, you won't get a ticket for running the stop sign but you can get a DWI.
So, the answer is yes and no. You can't get normal small tickets, but you can get the big ones. I think reckless operation falls under the criminal statue, so that would fall into private parking lots as well.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 3:48 pm to Pelican fan99
According to the whiners and complainers on this board only bicyclists blow through stop signs.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 3:50 pm to weagle99
Private property, can not be enforced
Posted on 12/29/18 at 4:11 pm to weagle99
No. And stop signs with white around them means you don't have to come to a complete stop.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 5:13 pm to Dandaman
quote:wrong in most states and municipalities. Police have no jurisdiction over shopping center stop signs etc, but they can legally get you for driving recklessly, menacing, etc. They can also harass you otherwise. Close to half of what cops do is not constitutional.
Yes. Stop.
Crosswalks are a little different. Pedestrians almost always have the right of way except in very rare situations.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 5:19 pm to weagle99
You can get cited for careless driving, though.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 5:26 pm to SoFla Tideroller
I turned into the pilot station in krotz springs off 190 and a cop pulled in and turned his lights on and told me that I can’t enter there due to the “one way” sign on that entrance. I told him that it was private property and couldn’t be enforced since the pilot, not the city put the sign up. I have no idea if I was right, but he didn’t either so he wouldn’t write me a ticket.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 12:15 am to latech15
My uncle is doing 14 years at David Wade Correctional Center because his third strike was blowing through a Piggly Wiggly parking lot stop sign.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 12:53 am to SlapahoeTribe
DUI is not a title 32 (traffic) offense but is a title 14 (criminal) offense so there is your difference, private property or not.
Also, you can be charged for DUI simply by sitting behind the wheel even though the vehicle isn't moving or the engine cranked.
Also, you can be charged for DUI simply by sitting behind the wheel even though the vehicle isn't moving or the engine cranked.
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