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re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case

Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:09 am to
Posted by Col Nathan Jessup
Guantanamo Bay, Cuba
Member since Dec 2014
57 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:09 am to
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The problem is after they dragged a stumbling drunk girl to the car


Your entire post is you wishcasting the absolute worst scenario you can create. The facts already known are horrible enough, you over characterizing and adding in extra scenarios that have no evidence of happening are not doing any good.

So many in here criticize the comments under WAFB/WBRZ stories because y’all will say that those people are just looking for any scenario that makes the situation seem innocent. Meanwhile so many in this thread are exaggerating what we know for facts, or see with our own eyes in some instances (video releases), to try and make this the absolute most heinous event imaginable. You guys are just as bad as the Facebook commenters, but on the opposite side.

Once again, the story is bad enough at face value. It doesn’t need embellishment to prove that something very terrible happened that night. The truth is likely more in the middle of the two extremes, but the last person to point that out in this thread got bombarded with downvotes and likely RA’d.



Did y’all miss this from the last post on page 189?
Video of the 4 crossing the street
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 7:10 am
Posted by lctiger
Member since Oct 2003
3432 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:12 am to
The boys didn’t want to find where she lived. They knew they had just raped her and if they took the time to figure out where she lived, by calling a friend, waiting for her to sober up, then they would face the risk of her pressing charges the next day
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19166 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:14 am to
Yea that video shows a different story then the first IMO
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111743 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:14 am to
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Once again, the story is bad enough at face value. It doesn’t need embellishment to prove that something very terrible happened that night. The truth is likely more in the middle of the two extremes, but the last person to point that out in this thread got bombarded with downvotes and likely RA’d.
People like very definitive situations. Being followed by the criminals or dragged out of the bar made the story “easier” to digest and form a solution.
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 7:16 am
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29888 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:15 am to
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I also heard that it was Casen who did put a stop to it… I’m sure he was scared and being so young he wasn’t equipped on how to handle the situation. But for what it’s worth, he was the one who made Washington stop.


Mr Morality pulled over the car so they could rape her and once they were finished with her they threw out of the car like trash. He is a total POS and deserves a long life in Angola where he can experience the same fate she did.
Posted by HodsonTiger13
Member since Jan 2023
737 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:15 am to
Police have her BAC from the coroner and it is was .319.

Video of Reggie's show Madison didn't drink the last hour she was there. So the BAC was on the way down (assuming the perps didn't give her more alcohol while in the car).

So (see the BAC science info) she was .335 or thereabouts at time of rape.

Doesn't matter if she hopped, skipped, or danced to the wrong car - before they took her to their vehicle. She was 4x legal limit drunk.

If you're just 'in the wrong place at the wrong time' would you want to do hard prison time?

The blacks in jail will say Casen cooperated and rape and beat him up for that.

The whites in jail will say Casen helped his black buddies anally rape and murder a white girl. They'll rape and beat him u p for that.

He needs to COOPERATE and fast.

These guys were about dumb enough to video the rape. Once someone else flips (the Uncle, say) or the video is all there, why would they make a deal with Casen?

First one who deals gets the best deal. That's how it works.



Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:16 am to
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The boys didn’t want to find where she lived. They knew they had just raped her and if they took the time to figure out where she lived, by calling a friend, waiting for her to sober up, then they would face the risk of her pressing charges the next day


Until she found out one was 17, correct?

You could assume that but that isn’t factual.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111743 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:16 am to
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Doesn't matter if she hopped, skipped, or danced to the wrong car - before they took her to their vehicle. She was 4x legal limit drunk.
Then there is no reason for you to say stuff like “she was dragged to the vehicle”
Posted by HodsonTiger13
Member since Jan 2023
737 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:19 am to

We know Madison was struck by a ride share driver trying to 'flag them down' in the rain.

But was this just a random car or was it a ride share driver she had summoned? Did her phone work?

The perps just left her there. They didn't wait for a taxi or Uber to arrive to make sure they weren't leaving a seriously drunk girl in the street. She could have been picked up and, say, raped by 4 thugs. Imagine that. Or run over. They did NOT CARE.

They got their rocks off. Dumped her on the road to be run over like a dog.

That's how little regard they had for her as they laughed after raping her on the video the Judge saw. They laughed as they drove away, got into bed, and slept well that night. But Madison would never go home and never see friends or family again.

The funeral is today in Covington.

God be with the family.




Posted by SCREWDAT
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2015
1452 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:23 am to
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Here’s the truth. You’re not important. You’re a prick. A weak prick who hides behind your computer.


She's actually a Facebook mom with an apparent narrative she relentlessly pursues and obviously knows the Casen kid personally.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
14955 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:27 am to
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Many posters and others on social media aren’t as judgmental of the Casen kid but it doesn’t make us trashy to have a different pov and try to understand the position he was put in.


You are trashy for so many other reasons. Don’t you have a meth lab to supervise? Just passing along what I heard.
Posted by BradBallard
Wilmington, Delaware
Member since Jun 2020
569 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:30 am to
quote:

The boys didn’t want to find where she lived. They knew they had just raped her and if they took the time to figure out where she lived, by calling a friend, waiting for her to sober up, then they would face the risk of her pressing charges the next day


This - they could have also dropped her off at an ER or LSU PD but that would have resulted in some questions and investigations they didn’t want asked or started.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
479263 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:34 am to
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Your entire post is you wishcasting the absolute worst scenario you can create. The facts already known are horrible enough, you over characterizing and adding in extra scenarios that have no evidence of happening are not doing any good.

THANK YOU

I tried to make the exact same argument a few days ago and people lost their fricking minds and said I was defending the alleged rapists.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
123642 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:39 am to
What are you even getting at
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
479263 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:39 am to
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Being followed by the criminals or dragged out of the bar made the story “easier” to digest and form a solution.

It also made internal analysis of past actions much more palatable.

Much easier to yell from a perceived moral high ground when the example in your head is "dragging a girl into a car" as opposed to a "having sex with a girl of questionable sobriety".

And let me just add a disclaimer before people start melting down again. The above statement isn't defending the alleged rapists by making them seem more normal. I'm saying a lot of guys are throwing stones when they should be self-analyzing past actions.
Posted by LSUFAITHFUL
Member since Oct 2007
1089 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:40 am to


Okay, but isn’t it a little disingenuous for you to link the WAFB video that suspiciously cuts out the part where her legs buckle, they catch her and guide her stumbling toward their car? Dragging or not, she’s not walking on her own at the end of the video that WAFB cut.

* and I know I’m a broken record on this, but it’s super telling that black shirt literally throws his hands up and steps back when she comes up sloppy and falling. He literally stays like that as friends cart her off. He knows they shouldn’t touch this girl.
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 7:43 am
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19429 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:42 am to
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questionable sobriety".


Is .3+ questionable? That’s like a comatose human
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 7:43 am
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:49 am to
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The video posted on WAFB shows her running across the parking lot jumping over a curb to chase BBC, without stumbling or losing balance.


The perps themselves said she could barely stand or talk and was trying to open random car doors. And that she asked them for a ride home. All of her friends left her.


That’s a lot different than being asked to be anal penetrated by two people in the back of the car. Some of you are having a really hard time with this.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
479263 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 8:01 am to
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Is .3+ questionable? T

Very likely not, but my comment you quoted wasn't about this specific situation. It was about situations others have been involved in. If they "only" dealt with a 0.25 BAC, it doesn't meet the specific qualifications you posted, but does it make a difference in the bigger picture? Likely not.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179426 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 8:06 am to
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Yea that video shows a different story then the first IMO




what "story" did you gather from a video of 4-5 people walking in a parking lot from 50-100ft away? Never was this a case of a smash and grab kidnapping.
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