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re: Controversial Opinion - Teachers don’t deserve pay raises

Posted on 5/2/26 at 4:19 pm to
Posted by jivy26
Member since Nov 2008
2867 posts
Posted on 5/2/26 at 4:19 pm to
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Controversial Opinion - Teachers don’t deserve pay raises


They deserve competitive salaries, but also real salary scales that are purely performance based. Supply and demand would work if this wasn't a government job essentially.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30096 posts
Posted on 5/2/26 at 4:21 pm to
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Mom retired after 30 years with the school system. Pretty sure I have a great idea of how it works. Both of my SILs are also in the school system. Ones a vice principal and the other is a teachers aide.


None of them taught you how to use an apostrophe. You’re right, maybe teachers are overpaid.
Posted by Bayou Warrior 64
Member since Feb 2021
938 posts
Posted on 5/2/26 at 4:22 pm to
The problem with public education in Louisiana is the public in general does not trust the school boards and they do not trust the teacher's union. With regards to teachers and teacher pay, if you want the best and brightest, you get what you pay for.
This post was edited on 5/2/26 at 4:29 pm
Posted by RunningJacket
Member since Dec 2008
904 posts
Posted on 5/2/26 at 4:23 pm to
The problem with the teaching profession is the union which does not allow bad teachers to be fired. So the good ones get grouped in with the bad ones and hence taxpayers are against them.

Also, if a teacher wanted more pay they could go to private schools but they’d have to give up all the benefits which made the public job attractive. In my town the 3 private schools all have teachers who retired from the public schools, thus getting their pensions, and now can take a better job where only good teachers are hired. People will gladly pay for their kids to be educated by older teachers who actually have to perform or they will be fired. I’ve seen several teachers fired in the private school I sent my kids too because they stopped preparing, They didn’t have a union to pressure the head of the school.
Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
54552 posts
Posted on 5/2/26 at 4:25 pm to
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People will gladly pay for their kids to be educated by older teachers who actually have to perform or they will be fired.


We all know why many people will gladly pay to go to private school...and it has nothing to do with old teachers...it's to avoid certain types of students.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
16044 posts
Posted on 5/2/26 at 4:26 pm to
How timely. My 8th grader's teachers turn to YouTube multiple times a day to teach concepts they should be able to articulate, and it's all over the country.
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YouTube has quietly become the backbone of US classrooms
School-issued devices and Google accounts have turned the video platform into a default teaching tool


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Teachers use it to read to a class, teach first graders to draw, or fill the last few minutes before dismissal. But the platform was never designed to be the primary gatekeeper of what children watch during the school day.

Parents who gain access to usage logs can see just how much time their children spend inside YouTube's recommendation engine on school-issued devices. In Wichita, Kan., one seventh grader watched more than 13,000 videos on his school account from December 2024 through February 2025, according to data his mother, My Warren, obtained. His feed was filled with Shorts and clips about guns, "headshots," in which children realistically pretend to be killed, and sexually explicit jokes.

These stories are unfolding amid a broader technological shift. More than 88% of public schools now run one-to-one device programs, and Chromebooks alone account for roughly 60% of the K – 12 mobile market.

By 2019, internal exchanges concluded that "the YouTube experience in K – 12 schools is broken," citing inappropriate content, advertising, and weak controls. The company's Restricted Mode, intended to filter out adult material, was described as under-resourced and "trivially easy for students to bypass."

School districts have run into those same limitations. Many have tried to block YouTube, only to watch students route around filters by logging out of managed accounts or sharing links in Google Slides and Docs.

YouTube argues that administrators, not algorithms, are responsible for what students see.
Posted by Pauvetibete
Member since Apr 2022
1843 posts
Posted on 5/2/26 at 4:27 pm to
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None of them taught you how to use an apostrophe.


Brother, Im on the beach in Florida about 12 beers deep. Lucky I have any punctuation.

Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
139341 posts
Posted on 5/2/26 at 4:30 pm to
I think teachers are different than other govt employees. In many areas they are underpaid if you look at what bloated admin staff make, who have no impact on students.

Now other government employees are all overpaid and over employed. Cut 50% in all areas of govt and no one would notice except taxpayer wallets
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
21157 posts
Posted on 5/2/26 at 4:33 pm to
I think some districts pay well and some don’t. It’s like a lot of jobs. The higher paying districts probably have less trouble hiring teachers.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20881 posts
Posted on 5/2/26 at 4:33 pm to
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Teachers make on average 60k a year.


Sucks to suck.

I make $94k/year in Alabama at a public school. Yes, I work around 190 days a year and typically work 8am-3:30pm. I do not stay late. I get all of my work completed during my two planning periods. I do some ongoing personal education and planning when I feel like it during the summer, but I’m mostly present at home with my kids. I have never once thought about health insurance outside of my $30 copays and when I have to click some buttons during open enrollment. I can retire with full pension and a great insurance plan at 25 years. In Alabama, we pay into social security.

I’m not ever going to argue against pay increases for myself, just like you all wouldn’t either no matter the profession. I do think there are a lot of teachers who have worked the same job at the same shite school system with just a bachelor’s degree slowly working their way up the pay scale. These are the teachers who complain all the time, have no idea how to manage a classroom, and believe they are God’s gift to society. That’s why they make around $55k/year forever and ever.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98937 posts
Posted on 5/2/26 at 4:36 pm to
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Good teachers are hard to find


They wouldn’t be if we could pay good teachers more than the shitty ones. You know, like most other jobs?

But teachers don’t want that
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
21157 posts
Posted on 5/2/26 at 4:37 pm to
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I can retire with full pension and a great insurance plan at 25 years.

You get 100% of your salary for life after 25 years of service? That’s an amazing deal. Most states have a formula that’s 2.5 times your years of service for the total percentage of your salary. Like 25 X 2.5=62.5% of salary for life. Good but it’s not 100% after 25 years.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102637 posts
Posted on 5/2/26 at 4:39 pm to
I mean everyone deserves raises eventually to keep up with inflation and if they stay at a job for a long time and have good performance.

But I agree that many teachers ask for too much and expect to be put on a pedestal for their profession. Don’t get me wrong it’s an honorable profession but also should be like any other job, you get rewarded for good performance and long tenure. Just being a teacher shouldn’t warrant a raise across the board.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
15270 posts
Posted on 5/2/26 at 4:39 pm to
Teachers need to be paid more. Your simplistic supply and demand analysis is omitting the quality of the supply. There’s a lot of better labor that are self-selecting out because they don’t want to babysit assholes they can’t discipline for $40k per year.

Lots of potential good candidates head to nursing school instead.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
21157 posts
Posted on 5/2/26 at 4:41 pm to
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They wouldn’t be if we could pay good teachers more than the shitty ones. You know, like most other jobs? But teachers don’t want that

We got a nice bonus 1 year. The district only gave it to teachers who showed up for work and didn’t use all of their sick days. In other words the teachers who showed up for work 95% of the time. I thought there was going to be a riot over that, lol. I understand people who have serious medical conditions. That’s not who was complaining.
Posted by WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
in the transfer portal
Member since Dec 2009
2473 posts
Posted on 5/2/26 at 4:41 pm to
I'm curious. What subject(s) did you teach?

I hope it wasn't English.

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He was black....in the office, they lowered the offense to something to avoid a suspension that a white kid to maintain equity.

Posted by Pauvetibete
Member since Apr 2022
1843 posts
Posted on 5/2/26 at 4:43 pm to
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It’s apparent that random posters on here know more about the job than I do, despite my years of experience.


Teachers recieve a pension. Its based on years of services and funds TYPICALLY go into a TRS. When you retire they take the 5 years of highest earning and determine BY THE YEARS OF SERVICE AND ACCOUNT GROWTH, what your payment is accordingly. At 30 years, my mom recieves a check every month roughly 75% of what she made her last 5 years.


Glad I could explain that since you refused for whatever reason.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
35917 posts
Posted on 5/2/26 at 4:45 pm to
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The blanket statements tossed around by those about the teaching profession are interesting to say the least.
Yeah. It’s interesting. The other common misconception is how much power teacher unions have. None except maybe in large cities, not in Louisiana. It’s easy to get rid of teachers. Most administrators don’t or don’t need to there is already so much turnover.
Posted by Pauvetibete
Member since Apr 2022
1843 posts
Posted on 5/2/26 at 4:46 pm to
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You get 100% of your salary for life after 25 years of service?


100% of your pension =/= to 100% of salary and you know thats what he means. Name any proffesion currently which has a 100% pension.
Posted by geauxturbo
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
4440 posts
Posted on 5/2/26 at 4:47 pm to
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There’s a lot of better labor that are self-selecting out because they don’t want to babysit assholes they can’t discipline for $40k per year


This is a fact. You get what you pay for. I would waste less on tech and almost zero on consultants and stupid "programs" and just pay the most for teachers. Pick and choose the best and watch the results.
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