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I know both teams have mercenaries as did Indiana. Cignetti is a way better coach than Kiffen. It’s not even close. I just think Ole Miss had the better QB, playing at home, with a known staff. Kiffen is a name but what has he won or proven other than he can get paid tons of money for flash. I love Kiffen as characters like him make the sport fun but he’s gotta eventually win something, anything. Spurrier was awesome because he had the flash and win conference and national titles. The only thing Kiffen won was Layla and he even lost that in the end.

So you guys really still believe that people are worrying about the SEC or how great they are or aren’t? You guys are just funny. The SEC is what it is - a good conference with some good teams, mid teams, and bad teams. Just because you fill huge stadiums doesn’t make it any more than that. Sure, your games get over the top publicity because of ESPN, but no one is scared anymore.

I love SEC football because this is where I grew up and have lived most of my life but the shine is way off. There is no Spurrier or Bear or undefeated teams. There are no NFL defenses like Bama and UGA recently had. Where are the Heisman front runners? Not in the SEC right now.

I agree. Things can go south fast and in this new era it’s gonna happen to teams no one expected. I’m not saying 3-9 bad, but there are going to be a lot more 6-6 and 7-5 teams in the future and because fanbases will continually compare the past to the present they’ll scream and yell and make things worse. The talented players are going to be spread around seeking money and playing time which create highly competitive games. That’s all I ever wanted. If my team goes 6-6 yet we’re competitive and showed up then that’s fine. Eventually every team will have a 10-2 when things align - see Vandy recently and Miami. Not dominant, but had great years.

Johnny,
It’s still early in the process. This isn’t an instant thing. It will take several cycles just like it takes years for a giant to crumble. Look at Bama. Saban retired several years back and yet Bama still has a pulse because of him and the draw. But no one can argue they are slowly declining. We’ve seen this time and time again when a legend retires or something cataclysmic happens in the sport. Look at FSU after Bowden. They hung in for another decade. I would say unlimited transfers and bagmen for all is the biggest change in college football history.

And look at UGA. Even with still having Kirby, top 3 classes, and Clemson, Auburn, and Bama being down they still haven’t been to the Natty in 3 years. Meanwhile schools like Indiana, Miami, Michigan, etc have and none of us would say they are above UGA overall. But clearly something is happening and it’s not just bad luck because we watched the games and they were just straight up beat without flukes.

JohnnyU,
You are living in the past my friend. Yes, the ACC has been mediocre but in case you haven’t noticed a lot of ACC are buying players that would have gone to the SEC these days. Over a 2-3 year cycle that will bring them up and SEC teams down. Heck, you are seeing that right now with the BIG. It’s not random luck that no SEC team has been in the Natty 3 years. That’s a result of action by other teams buying their players and weakening the SEC. You guys can stick your head in the sand and call guys like me names but the results speak. The ACC did what the SEC hasn’t done in several years now and it wasn’t by random luck. The SEC has been slow in adapting and their coaches have brought in the wrong portal guys. Look at Tennessee and their stud who is already off the team.

NYC will eat this dude up over the years. He’s the new shiny toy right now but eventually even moron New Yorkers will get tired of this dude telling them what they can or can’t do. He won’t be able to stop himself because the power makes people like him drunk.

GT and Miami are locks for the BIG? Both are AAU, both have money, both in a new region for the BIG, and both have shown a commitment to sports and more importantly both are highly ranked academic schools who bring in big money outside of sports. The SEC would be smart or get UNC and UVA. VT is an interesting case because they have a rabid fanbase and can be good at football but they bring absolutely nothing on the academic or outside money side of the equation.

Some of you simply don’t see the big picture when it comes to expansion. It isn’t just about who is good at football today or just about football. It’s about the school in general and money. You guys laugh at UVA but don’t realize they are freaking loaded. Just because they have been putting money elsewhere other than bagmen doesn’t mean they couldn’t pull an Indiana. No different than most of these huge SEC stadium type teams who fill a stadium six times a year but have mid level money.

And to the poster who said the SEC has multiple contenders this year - have you not been watching defense in the SEC the past several years? It doesn’t exist outside of Kirby. Until the SEC gets back to playing defense they are a pretender.

Scoob, thank you for being someone who gets it. The BIG is slowly putting the SEC on an island and the last 30 years of SEC glory won’t be able to save it no matter how many fans want to talk about past heydays. Right now today, the SEC has 1 legit title contender - UGA. That’s the same number as the ACC.

Kajon, you say you don’t feel the same passion from fans. I’d ask, what fans are you hanging around? If it’s your small little bubble then welcome to my world for the past 60 years when my bubble knew we were going to lose a game because the other team had paid for players.

Do you not understand for every fanbase that feels down right now there is another fanbase that feels up and can’t wait for the season? You SEC fans are just spoiled and now that you don’t get a new bike every year at Christmas now you think the holiday sucks. It’s still the same, it’s just different kids getting new bikes.

If Ole Miss or Souh Carolina had just done what Indiana has done over the past 2 years you guys would be screaming how much tougher your conference is and how great all your teams are when a has been team can win a Natty. But because it’s a BIG school in a place where it snows y’all want to act like the sport is dying. If anything, the sport is growing as you have more interested fans in the midwest. What would really help the sport is for USC or UCLA to become good again so the west coast has teams they can support.

You do know the players don’t even know you guys are alive yet you are sitting their as grown men crying because your old butt can’t take the 15 seconds to us google for your team roster when the device is literally in your hand.

And sure the novelty will wear off in about 70 years for Indiana type fans like it has for you.

The bottom line is this board has become a whinefest because your teams are losing. We NEVER saw these type of threads when LSU, Bama, UGA, Tenn, were winning Natties. Instead, you guys made thread after thread about how everyone else sucked and that our coaches sucked and our fans sucked because we weren’t selling out stadiums for 6-6 teams. It’s just funny how quickly the bullies become crybabies over 19 year olds.