re: Controversial Opinion - Teachers don’t deserve pay raises

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you’ll realize that they don’t represent all teachers

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It doesn't need to be all.

It need to be someone like Randi Weingarten giving excuses to blue states and districts on why the kids absolutely cannot be back in school until ridiculous shite like hanging plastic dividers around desks is the key to safety.

Enough of a majority of teachers, primarily female, driven by safety Uber Alles, buy into that shite to pull funding from shite that actually matters. Mainstreaming SPED kids was first pushed by parents, then pushed by teachers as a way to get more "help," wholeheartedly, because who doesn't like inclusion? This screwed learning of non SPED students with disruptions. Increased budgets for all the SPED adjacent administrative services that wouldn't be needed, if they were just in SPED classes.

You want to talk about the uncertified teachers that were approved on an emergency basis due to "shortages" who are glorified baby sitters in heavily Hispanic areas in the sticks in Texas? And get paid nearly the same as certified teachers, but with a 1/3 lower class load (especially in bilingual classes, where a good portion of their class doesn't show up 5 days a week)?

Everyone that complains about teachers should quit their jobs and teach for 3 years and then get back to us.

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If you want to go proofread what people are posting on here then you enjoy a lifetime of enjoyment of doing it.

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Well, it definitely doesn't seem like you taught English.

Here's hot take:

Teachers, both in the classroom and as administrators, have spent 50+ years wrecking our public education system. Only Mississippi has shown any signs of reversing the national trend of declining performance. Teacher's unions have had a heavy hand in that.

No more pay increases until there are rigid performance standards in place. Remove politics and indoctrination from the curriculum. No unions permitted. Pay the superior performers what they deserve.

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I mean you did say 99.98%

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99.8% is a specific number. Reckon where I got that?

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So speaking from a real position of authority then.

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Yes, I am. You couldn't last a year.

Scrolled to the bottom so not replying to you RealTigerHorn.

I’m a PE teacher at the top scoring middle school in our area. I’m also the athletic director and head football coach. We are the largest MS in our parish. We have wonderful teachers and some pretty great administrators, too. I knew the pay wouldn’t be great going in. Mom was a teacher at an inner city school. I started out my career in High School at a private school. The pay was much worse with no health benefits or retirement.
I have been in this parish for 16 years. I am at a great school and I love my job. I know that others have it worse off than me. However, society has made a teacher’s job much harder because there is very little at home training. Kids are out of control. They use profane language, are disrespectful to adults, and they have no respect for their peers or school property.
Recently I took on a bus route because the bus driver quit. It’s pretty good money so I said why not. These kids are awful.
The biggest thing I can take away from public education is that there is no incentive for the good teachers and coaches to go the extra mile. You don’t get paid any more. However, at my school, I see our teachers and coaches doing it consistently. Because they are good people who want it done the right way. They go the extra mile and hell yes we deserve to be paid more for it.

I’ve never been one to gripe about my pay as a teacher. The one point you said I actually agreed with is the “they knew what the were getting into line.” Which is why I don’t complain.

That being said your other points are stupid or flat out wrong. There’s a legitimate teacher shortage, mostly because most don’t view the pay as worth having to deal with the other bullshite. And places where there may not be a teacher shortage there’s a shortage of people who can do the job well

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especially when you take into consideration that a kindergarten teacher makes the same as a teacher who teaches algebra to seniors

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I’m a high school math teacher. Kinder teachers work way the hell harder than I do

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In Wichita, Kan., one seventh grader watched more than 13,000 videos on his school account from December 2024 through February 2025,

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A) as someone that’s taught in Wichita this doesn’t surprise me

B) teachers shouldn’t depend solely on YouTube but this student being a clown and liking this stuff up in school doesn’t prove that. I only have two lessons a year where I’ll throw in a 2-3 minute YouTube video because it supplements what I’m teaching well. I would hope a kid wouldn’t take away it’s okay to look up sex shite because I showed a song about the quadratic formula.