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Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:54 am to rt3
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That's what everyone is assuming due to context clues
Only the jury knows that for certain
Apparently one of the notes said it was 11-1 NGRI
Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:54 am to ShrimperDan
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Apparently one of the notes said it was 11-1 NGRI
Was the note read in open court?
ETA: Genuine question... I missed what happened this morning before deliberations restarted
This post was edited on 9/4/26 at 9:57 am
Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:55 am to ShrimperDan
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Apparently one of the notes said it was 11-1 NGRI
If we're going off what Red said in court, he only said not guilty. That's concerning
Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:57 am to prplhze2000
Can someone explain to me how this isn’t jury tampering & intimidation and why reddington shouldn’t be disbarred? Mistrial.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:00 am to LNCHBOX
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If we're going off what Red said in court, he only said not guilty. That's concerning
Yea, especially with them doubling down on the beyond a reasonable doubt language. I can't see a way anyone could say there is true reasonable doubt she is insane. There is far more reasonable doubt she isn't insane, which how much research and planning she did going into this.
This may be my ignorance on how things work, but if the defense is arguing NGRI, at that point there is no deliberation on if she even did it right, since they've admitted as much? The only thing left to prove/have reasonable doubt over is if she was insane when it happened?
This post was edited on 9/4/26 at 10:01 am
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:06 am to Jim Hopper
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Can someone explain to me how this isn’t jury tampering & intimidation and why reddington shouldn’t be disbarred? Mistrial.
Jurors weren’t in the courtroom to witness his theatrics. Had he did that in front of them, everything you said is spot on.
This post was edited on 9/4/26 at 10:11 am
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:10 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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This may be my ignorance on how things work, but if the defense is arguing NGRI, at that point there is no deliberation on if she even did it right, since they've admitted as much? The only thing left to prove/have reasonable doubt over is if she was insane when it happened?
That is correct. In Mass, the prosecution has the burden of proof in an NGRI case. So they have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that she was criminally responsible/sane when committing the crime.
This post was edited on 9/4/26 at 10:15 am
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:14 am to lance814
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That is correct. In Mass, the prosecution has the burden of proof in an NGRI case. So they have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that she knew right from wrong while killing her 3 children.
Talk about a law deserving of jury nullification.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:15 am to lance814
Holdout guy is going to have to go into witness protection after this, he will be doxxed and threatened to hell.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:15 am to prplhze2000
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In Mass., the state has to prove BEYOND A REASONABLE doubt she is NOT insane. Very hard.
To be fair... she straight up murdered her kids. OF COURSE SHE'S INSANE. But who gives a crap? Find her guilty and kill her. Be done with it. She is of no value to society and has proven that she isn't fit to live anymore. Period. What do you do to an animal that proves it's no longer fit to live among humans? You kill it. Why should this be any different?
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:25 am to teke184
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Talk about a law deserving of jury nullification
Exactly. The prosecution had an uphill battle from the start of the trial. I think the defense would’ve took a different approach if this was in a state where the defense had the burden of proof on NGRI. Unless they felt the evidence was too much to overcome, perhaps pleading not guilty and trying to portray the husband as killer.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:26 am to MemphisGuy
This is unreal. I hope this bitch gets the next 12 who sentence her to arse cancer.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:33 am to BWHLSU
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:33 am to Bobby OG Johnson
Mistrial is official
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:34 am to ronniep1
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:36 am to whiskey over ice
That dude is a hero!
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:37 am to Cole Beer
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Mistrial is official
not yet
The judge gave the defense one hour
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:37 am to Bobby OG Johnson
This is the best outcome at this point.
The prosecution will do a MUCH better job next time, and the fervor will have died down completely and far less people will be paying attention
The prosecution will do a MUCH better job next time, and the fervor will have died down completely and far less people will be paying attention
This post was edited on 9/4/26 at 10:38 am
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:38 am to Bobby OG Johnson
King shite. Assuming they were 11-1 for NGRI, props to that guy for standing his ground. Prosecution needs to regroup and have a slam dunk retrial
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