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lance814
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re: Week 4 NFL Discussion - Brekkie Edition
Posted by lance814 on 10/4/26 at 1:16 pm to TigerLunatik
Just going to call holding everytime tuten gets into the endzone I see.
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re: Clancy Jury Is At 11 - 1?
Posted by lance814 on 9/4/26 at 1:33 pm to East Coast Band
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NGRI needs to be eliminated as jury option. All murderers have a degree of insanity. What isn't insane about a decision to kill another person? ( other than self defense, of course)
Idaho, Kansas, Montana and Utah.
re: Clancy Jury Is At 11 - 1?
Posted by lance814 on 9/4/26 at 11:36 am to RobertFootball
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”Yeah, officer, see, I was doing 90 in a 55 because I’m going through psychosis at the moment.”
TikTok lawyer: “The gas peddle was 1/8th of inch lower than what it should have been. Also, those specific shoes the driver was wearing were .02 ounces heavier than the original shoes. The husband clearly tampered with the vehicle.
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Talk about a law deserving of jury nullification
Exactly. The prosecution had an uphill battle from the start of the trial. I think the defense would’ve took a different approach if this was in a state where the defense had the burden of proof on NGRI. Unless they felt the evidence was too much to overcome, perhaps pleading not guilty and trying to portray the husband as killer.
re: Clancy Jury Is At 11 - 1?
Posted by lance814 on 9/4/26 at 10:10 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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This may be my ignorance on how things work, but if the defense is arguing NGRI, at that point there is no deliberation on if she even did it right, since they've admitted as much? The only thing left to prove/have reasonable doubt over is if she was insane when it happened?
That is correct. In Mass, the prosecution has the burden of proof in an NGRI case. So they have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that she was criminally responsible/sane when committing the crime.
re: Clancy Jury Is At 11 - 1?
Posted by lance814 on 9/4/26 at 10:06 am to Jim Hopper
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Can someone explain to me how this isn’t jury tampering & intimidation and why reddington shouldn’t be disbarred? Mistrial.
Jurors weren’t in the courtroom to witness his theatrics. Had he did that in front of them, everything you said is spot on.
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He's already done that. How would he be able to know the juror holding out had reasonable doubt and was still holding out? You want him to make a decision that would require he know actual specifics about the deliberations. So again, how are you wanting the judge to be able to determine that the holdout's doubt are unreasonable?
Defense literally just said it in court the holdout isn’t applying the rule of reasonable doubt during deliberation. Notice I didn’t say correctly, because that is up for each jurors interpretation. They’re implying the juror is saying there’s reasonable doubt, but still not willing to vote as a person with reasonable doubt should. Judge said he read jurors instructions again and he’s not discussing it further. Going to be a hung jury now.
You’re fixated on the judge’s determination of (un)reasonable and not reading what I’m saying. If the juror is saying in juror’s deliberation “I believe there’s reasonable doubt, but I’m not voting as such, and am not willing to deliberate” he is willingly not following juror instructions. This is actually what the defense is implying.
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How's he going to do that without essentially inserting himself into the deliberations? That's a big no no, is it not
By addressing them all together and rereading the juror instructions which is what he did.
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Pretty sure the judge cannot actually do that
He can’t remove them on their interpretation of reasonable doubt, but can if he’s stating there’s reasonable doubt, I’m voting guilty, and I’m not deliberating any further. It’s very rare a juror is removed once deliberation starts and this discussion would never take place in open court.
re: Clancy Jury Is At 11 - 1?
Posted by lance814 on 9/4/26 at 9:13 am to ShrimperDan
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Ultimately they can't force the guy to change how he reads the case. I would say the same even if it were a dumb woman trying to get her NGRI and the rest wanted to fry her.
Agreed, but the judge can speak to juror and find out if they’re willingly ignoring the instructions provided. Example: “I believe she may have had a psychotic event and didn’t know right from wrong, but I’m still voting guilty because she needs to go to jail for the rest of her life.” The judge can rule to remove the juror in that case.
This can be easily combatted by the juror if it’s states they reasonably believe she knew right from wrong and still committed the crime. Judge wouldn’t remove him in that scenario and hung jury would be the likely outcome.
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No, it isn’t.
Ok, let’s use a hypothetical. Let’s say this case was in Louisiana and all 12 jurors thought there was reasonable doubt that she may or may not have had a psychotic event. How are the jurors instructed to vote?
Then answer the same question Mass.
If your answers aren’t different, you’re misunderstanding jurors instructions. That’s why reasonable doubt was reread and the defense was pissed and wants to remove that juror. He believes there’s reasonable doubt juror believes there’s reasonable doubt and still won’t vote not guilty
re: Clancy Jury Is At 11 - 1?
Posted by lance814 on 9/4/26 at 8:04 am to ElPresidenteGrande
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This makes me think it’s 11-1 guilty. If it truly is that the one holdout is not following the court’s instruction regarding reasonable doubt, it makes me think that they are holding the State to a higher burden of beyond all doubt.
Most believe it’s the exact opposite. The jury is unwilling to vote NGRI, but believes there’s reasonable doubt. The defense certainly does. Only the jurors should know.
This case illustrates why if your state is going to allow NGRI plea, the burden of proof must be on the defense. You’ve conceded that you’ve committed the crime, now prove to the jury beyond reasonable doubt you had a psychotic event that caused you to commit the crime. Otherwise, every single person seeking any sort of professional help that commits a crime can use this same approach. They will cite this case as a precedent.
I know most states are set up this way, but believe they all should be.
I know most states are set up this way, but believe they all should be.
re: Defending NBA Champs vs San Antonio Spurs, Game 1 / SA wins up 1-0 in Series
Posted by lance814 on 5/18/26 at 10:19 pm to Splackavellie
Caruso is going to win mvp
re: Ronda Rousey vs. Gina Carano | Live on Netflix | May 16
Posted by lance814 on 5/16/26 at 11:15 pm to Frac the world
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What they should do for these non knockouts is make it best 2 out of 3, if Rousey got a second arm bar then it would be over. at least us viewers get to watch more than 17 seconds
Rousey submits her 5 more times in the first round minimum.
re: Ronda Rousey vs. Gina Carano | Live on Netflix | May 16
Posted by lance814 on 5/16/26 at 11:10 pm to HailToTheChiz
Rousey gonna call out ngannou?
48-47 Strickland. Won 2, 3 and 5
re: UFC 328 Strickland vs Chimaev
Posted by lance814 on 5/9/26 at 11:29 pm to UnluckyTiger
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Khamzat not shooting…wow
He’s tried pulling guard twice in the 2nd. His gas tank is completely zapped. That weight cut must’ve been brutal
No reason to land the kill shot. He was done. Agreed on the illegal knee
re: UFC 328 Strickland vs Chimaev
Posted by lance814 on 5/9/26 at 10:47 pm to shutterspeed
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Van's boxing is so fricking awesome.
His jab is beautiful. Doesn’t hurt that his opponent has no head movement.
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