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re: Clancy Jury Is At 11 - 1?
Posted on 9/3/26 at 8:42 pm to TutHillTiger
Posted on 9/3/26 at 8:42 pm to TutHillTiger
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The medical establishment is completely at fault here. I hope her husband sues their arse
How did you come to this conclusion?
Posted on 9/3/26 at 8:47 pm to TutHillTiger
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All you fellow Christian’s on here are definitely not a forgiving lot. Lol. Careful you are forgiven as you forgive
Nonsensical response.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 8:48 pm to Ingeniero
When will the judge declare a mistrial?
Posted on 9/3/26 at 8:58 pm to DustInTheWind
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not guilty by reason of insanity
We have law such as the law the prevents a felon from owning a gun because they can't be trusted.
If you are found not culpable due to mental defense, and some people are truly mentally whack, then any ability to harm self or others should be taken away. No matches, no gasoline, no hammer, no ax, no saw, no stove or oven, no car, no sharp scissor or knives, no stimulants or depressants, no big decisions such as mortgage, marriage, no riding airplanes or public transit, no access to chemicals or venomous animals...
Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:00 pm to TutHillTiger
quote:gaucho? is that you?
This case should have never been brought, it’s fricking manslaughter at best.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:05 pm to tWildcat
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When will the judge declare a mistrial?
By all accounts he is doing everything he can to pressure the holdout.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:35 pm to CocomoLSU
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If the defense attorney is ranting about it, doesn't that sort of tell you which way it is heading?
The other way to look at it is he probably does not want a mistrial. He knows the prosecution fricked up this case and they’ll have the benefit of hindsight in a retrial and avoid those mistakes
Posted on 9/4/26 at 1:02 am to TutHillTiger
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All you fellow Christian’s on here are definitely not a forgiving lot. Lol. Careful you are forgiven as you forgive.
She murdered 3 children you dolt. She needs to be buried under the prison...then she can take it up with God. I need not play a part in this one.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 1:33 am to TutHillTiger
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All you fellow Christian’s on here are definitely not a forgiving lot. Lol. Careful you are forgiven as you forgive.
Justice is not a sin.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 1:50 am to DeathValley85
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She murdered
Killed. Murder is a legal determination.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 7:04 am to Mo Jeaux
This case illustrates why if your state is going to allow NGRI plea, the burden of proof must be on the defense. You’ve conceded that you’ve committed the crime, now prove to the jury beyond reasonable doubt you had a psychotic event that caused you to commit the crime. Otherwise, every single person seeking any sort of professional help that commits a crime can use this same approach. They will cite this case as a precedent.
I know most states are set up this way, but believe they all should be.
I know most states are set up this way, but believe they all should be.
This post was edited on 9/4/26 at 7:08 am
Posted on 9/4/26 at 7:29 am to Scruffy
quote:15% of murderers who get an insanity verdict are unconditionally released in their lifetime (let free)
Y’all also need to understand how progressive many in the medical profession are, especially psych.
Figured it’s easier to put actual data out there instead of just guessing and insinuation
Posted on 9/4/26 at 7:33 am to lsupride87
quote:I like how you included “unconditionally”.
unconditionally
How about “conditionally”?
And what is the average length of time when they are released “conditionally”?
Posted on 9/4/26 at 7:35 am to Scruffy
Because conditionally can still be required hospitalization…..
I’m trying to present people that actually go free anger a NGRI verdict
I’m trying to present people that actually go free anger a NGRI verdict
This post was edited on 9/4/26 at 7:38 am
Posted on 9/4/26 at 7:38 am to lance814
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This case illustrates why if your state is going to allow NGRI plea, the burden of proof must be on the defense.
The burden of proof is on the defense.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 7:39 am to Mo Jeaux
quote:not true in Mass
The burden of proof is on the defense.
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In Massachusetts, the burden of proving sanity falls on the prosecution, not the defendant—once there is sufficient evidence raising the insanity/lack-of-criminal-responsibility issue.
Specifically:
* The Commonwealth must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant was criminally responsible (legally sane) at the time of the offense.
This post was edited on 9/4/26 at 7:40 am
Posted on 9/4/26 at 7:41 am to lsupride87
quote:And conditionally can require simply outpatient doctor visits, as I pointed out with other cases of mother’s murdering their children.
Because conditionally can still be required hospitalization…..
Thus a release from the facility.
This post was edited on 9/4/26 at 7:42 am
Posted on 9/4/26 at 7:46 am to lsupride87
The burden is still on the defense to show some primary facie evidence of insanity though. They can’t just raise their hands and say “I’m insane”.
Well yeah. The prosecution must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a defendant is criminally responsible. This isn’t news.
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The Commonwealth must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant was criminally responsible (legally sane) at the time of the offense.
Well yeah. The prosecution must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a defendant is criminally responsible. This isn’t news.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 7:48 am to Mo Jeaux
quote:It is news because almost every other state isn’t like this
Well yeah. The prosecution must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a defendant is criminally responsible. This isn’t news.
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Generally, in most states
The defendant has the burden of proving insanity, usually by either:
* Preponderance of the evidence — more likely than not (just over 50%), or
* Clear and convincing evidence — a higher standard, but below beyond a reasonable doubt.
This post was edited on 9/4/26 at 7:49 am
Posted on 9/4/26 at 7:51 am to Scruffy
quote:And I’m pointing out roughly 70% of NFRI verdicts get ZERO release. Only 15% truly go free with unconditional release. Thats just the facts
And conditionally can require simply outpatient doctor visits, as I pointed out with other cases of mother’s murdering their children.
I think the law should be your sentence in a facility should be the same as it would have been if not insane and no releases are possible
This post was edited on 9/4/26 at 7:52 am
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