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re: Clancy Jury Is At 11 - 1?

Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:37 pm to
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19821 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:37 pm to
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Constance Fisher killed three of her children in 1954, was found NGRI.


I had never heard of that case. According to Wiki, she killed 3 of her kids, was found NGRI. She was eventually released back to her husband and had 3 more kids. She later killed those 3 kids, bringing her total count to 6. She was sent to an institution, escaped from it, and drowned herself in a river.

The difference, though, was Fisher really was insane (schizophrenia). Clancy has never been diagnosed with psychosis. The shrinks who treated her in the hospital (before the murders) said they saw no evidence that she was psychotic. You have to be psychotic to qualify for NGRI.

Posted by DustInTheWind
Member since Sep 2016
1372 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:38 pm to
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I already listed examples of women who spent less than 10 years in a mental institution after killing multiple of their children and being found NGRI.
I know. And those cases are not the norm. They’re unfortunate situations. And one of those cases the person is still committed. They just had to go back. Definitely should never have been released and an example of why you don’t release them early.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13641 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:40 pm to
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This is WAY too high profile to let that her be in there that short period of time. There’s no way.

You are massively underestimating how many women view Clancy as some sort of heroic figure and the odds one of them is going to be involved in the psych updates that release her.
Posted by DustInTheWind
Member since Sep 2016
1372 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:45 pm to
Maybe I am.

I can tell you that this has opened my eyes in some aspects of how far this world has fallen. It’s fricking disgusting.

I just can’t fathom a prosecutor, a judge, and multiple doctors releasing a person who killed multiple children who still has bipolar. That doesn’t go away. Especially after some of these examples we have to go by. The people who make the decisions are not TikTok lawyers.

If it happens I’ll be the first to stand on the picket line.
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30570 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:47 pm to
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No chance unless the 3 men are lefty fairies


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It’s Massachusetts


Insane.


Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78128 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:49 pm to
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You are massively underestimating how many women view Clancy as some sort of heroic figure and the odds one of them is going to be involved in the psych updates that release her.
Y’all also need to understand how progressive many in the medical profession are, especially psych.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41756 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:55 pm to
Finding her guilty puts her away for life. (Well until a lady governor commutes her sentence)

Insanity means she could be committed for many years. Or a few. Or not many at all.

Remember… despite the fact that she admitted to the killings and her entire defense team says she killed the kids… there are a not small number of people out there who think the husband killed the kids and “tricked” her into saying she did.

Odds are some of those women may one day be in positions to release her from commitment.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
61726 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:56 pm to
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Y’all also need to understand how progressive many in the medical profession are, especially psych.
which is probably why she wasn’t committed or diagnosed as psychotic in the first place
Posted by DustInTheWind
Member since Sep 2016
1372 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:58 pm to
I get it. I’m taking a step back from my stubborn nature to always wanna be right here lol. Some of it is also me wanting to try to make the best of the situation. I don’t think it’s nearly as likely as some of you guys are thinking, but just the fact that it’s a possibility is scary. And I understand that. And I do want her guilty. It just doesn’t seem like that’s gonna happen unfortunately.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13641 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 7:01 pm to
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Y’all also need to understand how progressive many in the medical profession are, especially psych.

And in Massachusetts. She’s out in a couple years easily. Especially bc she clearly is not that insane and will immediately sound fine to these doctors analyzing her.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23676 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 7:09 pm to
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I just can’t fathom a prosecutor, a judge, and multiple doctors releasing a person who killed multiple children who still has bipolar. That doesn’t go away. Especially after some of these examples we have to go by. The people who make the decisions are not TikTok lawyers


They're going to bring in "experts" that will testify that the cause of her psychosis, her children, are gone, and that she's no longer postpartum. After some dog and pony show hearings she'll be released because she'll be deemed no longer a danger. She intends on becoming a postpartum mental health advocate and completing a wheelchair marathon. Women are going to eat that up and make her the victim. Mark my words.
Posted by Patfic15
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2018
4461 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 7:34 pm to
Stand strong Juror 1. Don't let the pink mob sway you.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
159241 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 7:37 pm to
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You have to be psychotic to qualify for NGRI
Ben Gazzara wasn't psycho in Anatomy Of A Murder

Jimmy Stewart went for Irresistable Impulse and kicked George C. Scott's drunken arse
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