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re: Clancy Jury Is At 11 - 1?

Posted on 9/3/26 at 5:44 pm to
Posted by DustInTheWind
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 5:44 pm to
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Postpartum psychosis is temporary in nature- especially so for what her defense is claiming… I can assure you she’s not going to be postpartum psychotic forever.
you’re making some pretty good arguments for the defense lol. That’s what this is turning into for you lol.

She’s also diagnosed with bipolar now. She may have always had it. It just didn’t come out until postpartum. This isn’t just postpartum psychosis.
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 5:55 pm
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 5:54 pm to
Looks like tomorrow's day will start with an inquiry into the holdout juror

Judge trying to preserve the verdict from any possible appeals
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 5:57 pm to
This is gonna be the White Woman's OJ case, isn't it?

It's effectively going to legalize post-birth abortion, and she's going to be a damned hero to AFWLs.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78127 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:00 pm to
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But the percentages don’t say that.
Based on this study I found, the average length of stay nationwide is ~4.4 years.

That was in 2016. Society was slightly more rational then than now too.

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Insanity acquittees in North Carolina may also have longer hospitalizations compared with acquittees in other states. A 2016 survey reporting the average length of stay (LOS) for hospitalized insanity acquittees in 14 states reported that acquittees in North Carolina had the second-longest average LOS in the country (8.1 years), at almost double the national average (4.4 years).2
Again, she will most likely serve less time than non-violent crimes committed.
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 6:01 pm
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:01 pm to
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This is gonna be the White Woman's OJ case, isn't it?

Already saw someone on social media call her Hoe J Simpson
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
41030 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:06 pm to
As an attorney who sat on a murder trial jury in New Orleans (how that happened is a mystery), sometimes this issue really is a layman having a hard time understanding legal thresholds of culpability.

In my case, the charge was murder 2 life in prison but there was lesser included offenses like basically manslaughter, which would require "hot blood" to reduce the charge for the killer.

A juror thought the mere fact the victim was in a verbal dispute with her killer was enough. It was very difficult for me to explain why it wasn't.
Posted by forkedintheroad
Member since Feb 2025
2768 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:08 pm to
Hopefully the hold out is sitting in the deliberation room with his arms crossed repeatedly telling the 11 ready to vote NGRI to go frick themselves and they are all going to burn in hell.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:09 pm to
I haven’t followed this trial at all.

But why is the defendant in a wheel chair? Is she physically disabled?
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:11 pm to
One of the very few things Louisiana ever did right was have 11-1 10-2 guilty verdicts for serious crimes.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:12 pm to
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But why is the defendant in a wheel chair? Is she physically disabled?
she jumped out a 2 story window so she didn’t have to smell the shite after her kids defecated from strangulation
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
159239 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:12 pm to
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Constance Fisher killed three of her children in 1954, was found NGRI.
OK, this is the craziest story ever:
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Before she was able to stand trial, a forensic psychiatric examination concluded that she was suffering from paranoid schizophrenia and was thus considered unable to stand trial.

Because of this, Constance was interned at the Augusta State Hospital in Augusta for treatment. While hospitalized there, she calmly explained that she had drowned the children one by one and she had done it because, as she claimed to one psychiatrist, "I wanted someone to baby me." In order to cure her, Fisher was given insulin injections and high doses of hormones, which would sometimes cause her to experience seizures.

Within a year of her internment, she started to show signs of improvement, no longer hearing voices or experiencing any auditory hallucinations. In 1955, her husband initiated a legal process to have her released, but his requests were denied by the hospital's medical board. After four years, partly due to a national effort to deinstitutionalize mental patients, Constance was released to her husband's custody on March 6, 1959.

The couple soon moved to a new home Carl had built for the family in Fairfield, where they would have three more children: Kathleen Louise (b. 1960), Michael Jon (b. 1962) and Natalie Rose (b. 1965)
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On June 30, 1966, Carl returned home from work, only to find 9-month-old Natalie drowned in the bathtub.[4] Shocked by the discovery, he ran towards the home of neighbor Howard Wood to use his telephone, as his home did not have one. Police were called to the scene, and after examining the crime scene, officers found the bodies of Michael and Kathleen tucked in their beds.[4] Constance herself was also found lying in her bed, having been rendered unconscious from a suicide attempt to overdose on pills. Newspapers at the time noted the eerie similarities with the previous murders, calling it a "duplication of tragedy".
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Constance's body was buried at the family's graveyard plot in Waterville. When Carl Fisher died in 1990, his body was also interred in the same plot as his wife and all of their six children.
Posted by DustInTheWind
Member since Sep 2016
1369 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:21 pm to
That is factoring in everything. Like, everything. Not just homicide. Much less multiple homicides.
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Again, she will most likely serve less time than non-violent crimes committed.
You can’t be serious?
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
117746 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:23 pm to
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But why is the defendant in a wheel chair? Is she physically disabled?
Fake attempt at a suicide didn't take into account the ground was frozen.
Posted by UFFan
Planet earth, Milky Way Galaxy
Member since Aug 2016
4005 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:23 pm to
Not that they don’t break this rule all the time, but aren’t jurors technically forbidden from discussing the case with anybody outside the jury? And particularly with the defense attorney?

So how does the defense attorney know what the vote is?
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 6:29 pm
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
117746 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:26 pm to
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She could actually be out in as little as 40 days.
dude, that’s never going to happen lol.
No way a jury will vote 11-1 to not send a woman who killed her three young children to prison but here we are.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
148094 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:26 pm to
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I haven’t followed this trial at all.

But why is the defendant in a wheel chair? Is she physically disabled?

As others said... after murdering her kids... part of her grand plan was to do a Greg Louganis from a 2nd story window to the frozen ground below
Posted by DustInTheWind
Member since Sep 2016
1369 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:27 pm to
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No way a jury will vote 11-1 to not send a woman who killed her three young children to prison but here we are.
Andrea Yates was 12-0. It’s very possible unfortunately and not surprising.

This is WAY too high profile to let that her be in there that short period of time. There’s no way.

Also, that fricking monster psycho bitch Casey Anthony was actually acquitted and set completely free. Jury’s are stupid.
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 6:31 pm
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:31 pm to
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Scruffy
T Scruffy, since you’ve taken an ethical pledge to protect your pediatric patients, how would a NGBI verdict make you look at mothers with provider diagnosed postpartum depression as it relates to your patients differently?
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 6:32 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78127 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:35 pm to
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You can’t be serious?
I already listed examples of women who spent less than 10 years in a mental institution after killing multiple of their children and being found NGRI.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78127 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:36 pm to
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how would a NGBI verdict make you look at mothers with provider diagnosed postpartum depression as it relates to your patients differently?
I would never know.

I don’t know parental health history. I just see the aftermath of child abuse.
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