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re: CHS Sr. committed suicide tonight

Posted on 1/11/20 at 4:12 pm to
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/11/20 at 4:12 pm to
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I don’t want you to ever have to deal with mental depression in your family. But if you do at some point in your life, please come back and read your own comments.


My brother and ex-girlfriend were both committed under the Baker Act for suicidal expression.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260187 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 4:13 pm to
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People who commit suicide deserve to be ridiculed


Thats a wee bit too far. Not all suicides are equal.

I certainly think we have romanticized the ideal though, which feeds into the culture of validation.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/11/20 at 4:13 pm to
Ok cool guy
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260187 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 4:15 pm to
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Wasn't just boys, Roger.


I agree. I just remember in my neighborhood the boys ran together.

I always respected the hell out of tomboys.

People are hard wired to deal with adversity. We need more of t.
This post was edited on 1/11/20 at 4:17 pm
Posted by liz18lsu
Naples, FL
Member since Feb 2009
17302 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 4:17 pm to
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Right, it's me, the guy pointing out that parent's who commit suicide are terrible parents, not the parents who commit suicide, that is the a-hole


You think it's just black and white? Like mental illness doesn't exist? I don't mean clinically insane, I am talking about depression, which you clearly don't understand. You don't just "snap outta it" for the sake of others. Suicide proves my point.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26546 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 4:20 pm to
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My brother and ex-girlfriend were both committed under the Baker Act for suicidal expression.


If your brother ends up killing himself someday (and I hope he doesn’t), don’t be a hypocrite. Make sure at his funeral everyone knows how you feel. They will appreciate your honesty.
Posted by Falco
Member since Dec 2018
1242 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 4:33 pm to
Well had you not sent your wife's information to another poster and given her attention instead you may not have "lost" her. Although the situation with your brother was fricked up.

But I totally agree suicides frickecup and more needs to be done to help the mental health in the US.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39159 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 4:33 pm to
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I keep hearing and reading that suicide is preventable? How? In many instances, we’d have to literally lock people up to prevent them from doing this to themselves

This is so true. My wife lost two siblings to suicides. In both cases we had an idea of what was coming. Nothing could be done short of sacrificing the lives of healthy people to have them constantly attend the victims, or lock them up and medicate them. Tough situations.
Posted by GetBackToWork
Member since Dec 2007
6253 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 5:56 pm to
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He went to St George then CHS. Apparently the father committed suicide a few years back.

Prayers to the family.


When I saw this post last night, I had a sick feeling I knew exactly who this might be. Got the call today and confirmed my fears. Terrible news. Complicated, tragic situation.
Posted by HoustonChick86
Catalina Wine Mixer
Member since Dec 2009
57260 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 6:23 pm to
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You think it's just black and white? Like mental illness doesn't exist? I don't mean clinically insane, I am talking about depression, which you clearly don't understand. You don't just "snap outta it" for the sake of others. Suicide proves my point

Oh you mean when others tell you to just be happy that does not work??!?
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14890 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 6:27 pm to
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My girlfriend at the time was friends with one of the girls and I was friends with her older brother. A sad sad situation indeed. I know a few details that I won’t share on here and it was a horrible event all the way around.


Pretty sure I know who you’re talking about. Friends with the brother as well if so
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124021 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 6:32 pm to
Hard truths are good truths. I had a heavy hand in my downfall. It was a kinder cruelty though, when she left and didn’t give me a way back in.

I’d rather that she be happy without me than the both of us trapped in a miserable existence, a slow seeping poison that might have seen the darkness win.

Better to have loved and learnt than buried and burnt.

Life is a journey, and as long as we keep afloat, the storm will pass eventually. There will be new adventures.

That end was inevitable. She just set me free and made a decision that I would have been too stubborn to make. She saved me in a way by letting me burn. You come out the fire harder and stronger and sharper.
Posted by HoustonChick86
Catalina Wine Mixer
Member since Dec 2009
57260 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 6:52 pm to
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the storm will pass eventually. There will be new adventures.

New adventures do not mean the storm passes. I will never recoup from losing my sister to suicide and then losing both of my parents. I'm left alone. I have a great husband and child, but nothing replaces what I have lost.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30242 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 6:58 pm to
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I will never recoup from losing my sister to suicide and then losing both of my parents. I'm left alone. I have a great husband and child, but nothing replaces what I have lost.


I know you're not seeking sympathy but just reading this makes my heart hurt. I've followed your story here to a degree and I'm so sorry for your losses. This world can be a cruel cruel place.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124021 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:02 pm to
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New adventures do not mean the storm passes. I will never recoup from losing my sister to suicide and then losing both of my parents. I'm left alone. I have a great husband and child, but nothing replaces what I have lost.



Of course there will always be an emptiness that will never be filled.
An empty chair at family gatherings. Missed memories.

But I’m talking about that storm where all Hope seems lost and you are ready to sink into
The abyss. That overwhelming feeling of despair, cannot, and will not, last forever. All storms will end. that doesn’t mean smooth sailing, or that your vessel will not be battered and tattered, but the sun will come out again.

Even though in the Moment it feels like it’s all over, the death of joy, it’s simply not true.

If you hang on, you will find laughter again. You’ll steal little joys here and there. And if you keep on moving, you’ll find a smile on some horizon.

Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113936 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:08 pm to
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You think it's just black and white?


This is what people don't understand. The brain is pretty complex and everyone's brain works different. There really is no way to talk about mental illness in a black or white way.
Posted by Saltwatersoul04
The Island
Member since Apr 2013
1394 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:19 pm to
And hopefully someone will step up and beat his fricking arse for ridiculing his mentally ill brother.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9454 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:29 pm to
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It's a shame that people blame themselves for other people's decisions. In this thread I see people claiming they knew a "really great mom" who committed suicide? Great mom? Is that a joke? That's as mentally scarring for a child as brutal abuse.

People who commit suicide deserve to be ridiculed. People who struggle and choose not to commit suicide deserve to be praised


Jesus Christ, where do I start? First of all, trying to show a little empathy and understanding might do you some good. It'll certainly do others good. If you're incapable of that, silence may be your best option.

People blame themselves because they wish they could prevent the tragedy from ever happening. I know it wasn't my fault and I'm not to blame, but that doesn't make me feel any better. There were things I said, that in retrospect, I wish I hadn't. Would it have prevented her from killing herself? Probably not, but we'll never know.

She was a great mom. Ask anyone who knew her. She was kind, sensitive, funny, supportive, and a great cook. She was also bipolar. Are mothers who die of cancer bad for abandoning their children? Of course not. She was sick, and the illness was fatal.

Her kids were 4, 6 and 10 when she died. They were definitely traumatized and I'd venture to say, mentally scarred. The youngest barely remembers her. It saddens me to think that all she knows about this wonderful person is that she left her and she can't understand why. I know I can't tell her. I have no answers either.

Your ridicule comment is too stupid for me to waste time addressing.

In the words of a famous philosopher, that is all I've got to say about that.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
84065 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:31 pm to
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It's a shame that people blame themselves for other people's decisions. In this thread I see people claiming they knew a "really great mom" who committed suicide? Great mom? Is that a joke? That's as mentally scarring for a child as brutal abuse.

People who commit suicide deserve to be ridiculed. People who struggle and choose not to commit suicide deserve to be praised



There's always at least one of you morons in every thread like this. Keep your stupidity to yourself next time
Posted by HoustonChick86
Catalina Wine Mixer
Member since Dec 2009
57260 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:32 pm to
The storm is never going to pass for me, I am fricking devastated. And nothing anyone says or does will help. Especially your poems.
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