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re: CHS Sr. committed suicide tonight

Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:57 am to
Posted by liz18lsu
Naples, FL
Member since Feb 2009
17302 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:57 am to
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White Roach


The idea that suicide is so prevalent is sad...Just from this thread.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17255 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:07 am to
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until it hits the news.


Ain’t going to happen, suicides happen regularly, news don’t report them unless it is Epstein, lol
Posted by Volt
Ascension Island, S Atlantic Ocean
Member since Nov 2009
2960 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:11 am to
I’ve worked 20+ years in the medical field with almost 13 in the ER.

People need to stop blaming themselves when this happens.
Society needs to stop blaming itself. We’ve been hearing it and reading it for years, just as we are in this thread, that there’s not enough help for those individuals who end up taking their own lives.

There are programs, there are groups, there are hotlines, there are family, friends, and loved ones that are all there for these people. Many people still take their own lives whether they seek out these options or not. Many people take their own lives when absolutely no one knew that they would even consider doing this to themselves.

I keep hearing and reading that suicide is preventable? How? In many instances, we’d have to literally lock people up to prevent them from doing this to themselves.

I’ve known far too many people both personally and professionally that have taken their own life. It’s horrible. It’s tragic. It’s devastating. It’s selfish.
Every single one of them had either been counseled or definitely knew where and how to seek counseling. Suicide was still the choice that THEY made.

We can’t comprehend the mindset of these people for doing what they did. Even those of you who did contemplate it at one time can’t, because fortunately you didn’t make the same decision.

Life is precious, and awesome, and adventurous, and has so much to offer.

DO NOT blame yourself.
This post was edited on 1/11/20 at 9:14 am
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124001 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:12 am to
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We don’t deserve a poster like you. Perfectly written and eloquent as a poem. Your post was better than most keynote speakers. Geez. Can’t believe I read this on a message board, should be in a newspaper.
If you think it would help someone, anyone, share it.


I don’t care, it’s a message that all those sorrowed souls who think
All hope is lost need to hear.


There is a whole beautiful wonderful life beyond the darkness if only you can struggle on.

And I won’t lie and sugar coat it, it’s hard
It’s a rough, awful rotten miserable sandwich you’ll have to eat.


But just like any other sandwich, eventually you‘ll turn it into turds and flush it all away

And you know what you get in reward for Hanging on when you think nothing is worth carrying on?

You’ll find there’s quite a lot.

I get to watch LSU Play for a championship on my tv
I get to spend those moments with family and friends
There will be food and drinks and laughter and celebration

And if I’d let the dark and twisties have their way I’d have none of it
Because no matter what lies the dark and twisties tell there is light ahead, if you just hang on a little longer

Just a little longer

And you’ll find they can’t hold on
Because grief is brief
But life is long
This post was edited on 1/11/20 at 9:28 am
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98938 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:19 am to
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WTF? What more do you want “we” to do? Holy shite sis, if you don’t feel like you can talk about whatever your problem is I don’t know what to tell you?


Really? We regularly see people comment that suicide is selfish, religious pressure that you’re going to Hell if you do it, etc. I literally had the parent of a kid who had a plan to commit just last week say “Well she just needs to suck it up because I did.”. There’s still a huge stigma.

Then there’s the issue of the affordability of mental health services if they do want to talk about it. For most people, long term services is not affordable. And depression doesn’t just “go away”.

A whole lot of misinformation you’re spewing right there that just supports the negative stigma.
Posted by liz18lsu
Naples, FL
Member since Feb 2009
17302 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:24 am to
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A whole lot of misinformation you’re spewing right there that just supports the negative stigma.


Mental illness isn't just the homeless guy begging for food. Start listening. To your spouse, your children, your friends.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113936 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:25 am to
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Single dad, wife left, lost a career, lost a brother...all in 6 months.


I know its not everyone, but it does seem like a lot of people go through a time in their life when everything comes within a short period of time.

One of my relatives wife left him over the summer, he had just started working from home and liking it.. About a month after his wife left he gets laid off. Then learned that the wife who filed for divorce, took the credit card in both of their names, maxed it out and was coming after half of his 401k.

It just reminded me of that, but I can think of other situations in which someone had unexpected events all happen within a short period of time. Like they say, when it rains.. it storms.
Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
2525 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:34 am to
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Really? We regularly see people comment that suicide is selfish, religious pressure that you’re going to Hell if you do it, etc. I literally had the parent of a kid who had a plan to commit just last week say “Well she just needs to suck it up because I did.”. There’s still a huge stigma.


I don't see how a belief that suicide is a wrong act causes people to commit suicide or make it worse.

Life can be difficult and brutal and we are the only creatures that have the weight of existence on our shoulders. We can ponder and wonder and injure and be injured. That might lead you to a dark place if there is no greater hope to hold on to.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260183 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:35 am to
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We regularly see people comment that suicide is selfish


By definition it absolutely is. Your passing the pain from to everyone else.

It's m friends with two men who had kidskill themselves over a breakup, now they're stuck with a lifetime of trauma.

It's not always that simple. I understand some people are just wired for despair and life is hell. But too many young people check out becaus they lack coping skills to deal with life's twists and turns. Some are overachievers and feel too much pressure.

You can feel empathy and acknowledge an act is selfish.
Posted by liz18lsu
Naples, FL
Member since Feb 2009
17302 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:39 am to
I agree, society is changing. What was once a "you are better off without me" may be turning to "I just want to be loved"
Posted by Johnny Roastbeef
Somewhere in Bartow County
Member since Sep 2018
1960 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:40 am to
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You never know what is in the mind of another person, no matter how intimately you know them


I lost a very good friend to suicide in 2017. I hung out with him 3 days before he killed himself but you would never know there was a dark cloud hanging over his head. He had himself a good career and was in the process of buying a house. You just never know. That phone call when I received the news from a mutual friend still haunts me to this day.
Posted by Demshoes
Up in here
Member since Aug 2015
10189 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:40 am to
So sad a kid gets to this point. Wish schools focused more on mental health and confidential options for kids in distress.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260183 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:47 am to
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What was once a "you are better off without me" may be turning to "I just want to be loved"


I think the profile of youth suicides prove that. Most of these kids are probably high achievers and have extremely high expectations put on them by others. Not all kids want to be in the crowd they're socially aligned with, or live the life their parents push on them. Thy fear failure and rejection.
Posted by stampman
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
4919 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:47 am to
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The idea that suicide is so prevalent is sad...Just from this thread.


Seems like the obits almost daily have someone in their teens or twenties that have passed on. Anytime there is no "extended illness" listed, you have to wonder if it's drugs or possibly what the OP is talking about. I would imagine even health care experts are sometimes caught off guard by this! I know this first hand from a doctor who recently lost a very bright son to suicide and he counsels people daily about this. Can't imagine the hurt he feels when it happened right in his own home!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260183 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:50 am to
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Wish schools focused more on mental health and confidential options for kids in distress.


Mass education is a huge part of the problem.
Posted by liz18lsu
Naples, FL
Member since Feb 2009
17302 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:54 am to
I think before it was hopelessness. Now it is lack of attention and hopelessness. Younger kids now.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57454 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:55 am to
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Who is CHS Sr?


It’s a school. I thought it was a persons name initials followed by Senior as well
Posted by ZenFNmaster
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2007
2466 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 10:29 am to
Damn Free, that hits hard.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113936 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 10:38 am to
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So sad a kid gets to this point. Wish schools focused more on mental health and confidential options for kids in distress.




Especially with social media. Before social media, a kid went to school, if he/she got bullied, once school is over for the day so is the bullying.. They go home and move on.. Today, once someone starts betting bullying its almost non stop. It doesn't leave them..
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 10:54 am to
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wish it was as easy for everyone as you think it is.



I don’t think it’s easy at all. And I don’t mean to be insensitive. But I don’t know what more “we” can do to help people. We have counselors, ministers, volunteers, help lines, hot lines, support groups, FB pages, advocacy groups, a multi billion dollar industry,etc dedicated to mental health. We are so sensitive to mental health that we have boys dressing as girls, girls who think they are boys and a homeless population we allow to shite in the street cause we have to be aware of and sensitive to “mental health” without hurting their feelings. I honestly don’t know what more we as a society can do to let these troubled souls know there is someone there for them.

Thus my response. I don’t feel you can say society needs to do more. Some people just can’t be helped.
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