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re: CHS Sr. committed suicide tonight
Posted on 1/11/20 at 2:00 am to lsuwontonwrap
Posted on 1/11/20 at 2:00 am to lsuwontonwrap
I’m just speaking in general baw.
I don’t know a damn thing. Hate to see this shite over a girl or grades or something like that
I don’t know a damn thing. Hate to see this shite over a girl or grades or something like that
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Posted on 1/11/20 at 3:21 am to fr33manator
It’s different for some people. I’m sure you were hurt during those rough times, but your mental makeup is different from other people. When everyday is a struggle for 2 or 3 years and you don’t really know what’s wrong, it can really hold you as a prisoner. Not justifying what he did, but you make it sound easy when it’s not.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:41 am to tigerinthebueche
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We’ve got more programs and people wanting
To help than ever before. If people don’t feel comfortable discussing their issues, that’s a personal problem, not the community.
No we don’t. Talk to any inpatient mental health facility in any state and ask how many patients are waiting for a bed.
Especially adolescent inpatient mental health beds. I can remember several times when I worked as a Peds nurse that we would get teens admitted to our regular Peds floor after they made a suicide attempt. They would stay with us with a sitter until an adolescent inpatient psych bed freed up.
There were several times that they just stayed with us for like a week before they were discharged home and supposed to follow up with outpatient psych since it would be another week or so before a bed in a true inpatient mental health facility was available to them.
So we did nothing for that child’s delicate mental state (so delicate that they tried to end their life)....except have a sitter sit by their bed watching them 24/7 for a few days.
Eta: my father made a suicidal gesture back in 2018. Gesture means it was a very half hearted attempt...more for attention. He even spent 9 days in an inpatient geriatric psych unit. Even then....I feel like they didn’t do that much for him except provide a safe space for him while they took him off all his psych meds and started him on different ones. He became VERY delusional there and I know it was due to taking him off meds but wondered if the environment made it worse.
This post was edited on 1/11/20 at 7:53 am
Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:51 am to lsunurse
I sat on the edge of that old pier by the Mississippi River bridge in BR one night and thought "I should just lean over and let go". I was hurting, in pain, and just felt hopeless. Luckily, I was going through, what I call, situational depression. Change the scenery, start over. Clinical depression is what I felt, but non-stop, and I can't imagine. Thoughts to a family who is devastated.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:07 am to liz18lsu
This is really bothering my wife. The fact that he is putting his family through the same thing his father did, knowing how devastating it was.
I can sit here and say I would never do it, but thankfully, I have never gotten that low.
I can sit here and say I would never do it, but thankfully, I have never gotten that low.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:11 am to udtiger
But that isn’t how someone that is truly depressed to the point of constant suicidal ideation thinks.
In their mind in some cases....they think their families would be better off without them.
In their mind in some cases....they think their families would be better off without them.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:11 am to udtiger
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This is really bothering my wife. The fact that he is putting his family through the same thing his father did, knowing how devastating it was. I can sit here and say I would never do it, but thankfully, I have never gotten that low.
A lot of people talk about suicide being selfish, but shite, we are programmed to survive. Taking your own life, at such a young age, is a mental illness. Thinking you are doing the world a favor by not existing. Even if it was a desperate cry for attention, why do we not see the signs, until it's too late?
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:18 am to udtiger
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This is really bothering my wife. The fact that he is putting his family through the same thing his father did, knowing how devastating it was.
I can sit here and say I would never do it, but thankfully, I have never gotten that low.
My father in law killed himself about 8 years ago. Since that time, our family has learned way more than we’d ever want to know about suicide.
Unfortunately the suicidal individual is in a mental state so precarious that they do not rationally consider the impact their actions will have on their loved ones — even if they’ve experienced a loss by suicide themselves.
They basically only think — “I hurt and I want it to stop”.
We have some friends who are absolutely lovely amazing people. They lost both their sons to suicide about a year apart — and they were all receiving counseling and grief guidance at the time their second son took his life.
It’s really tragic and terrible.
I’m so sorry for anyone who’s life and family have been touched by suicide.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:21 am to udtiger
I'm not a health care professional, but from what I've always heard children who experience a close family member's suicide need special attention as the likelihood of them attempting suicide increases dramatically. Even later, knowing that relatives committed suicide can influence people suffering in depression.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:21 am to Macintosh504
News outlets don’t report suicides.
This post was edited on 1/11/20 at 8:25 am
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:22 am to East Coast Band
A family I know, their son committed suicide in early December. He was in his late 20s.
The week before Christmas a guy I grew up with. His son committed suicide. He was in his early 20s. Had recently graduated from college.
It's sad because you can't see mental illness and you truly have no idea what someone is dealing with.
The week before Christmas a guy I grew up with. His son committed suicide. He was in his early 20s. Had recently graduated from college.
It's sad because you can't see mental illness and you truly have no idea what someone is dealing with.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:23 am to cleeveclever
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Unfortunately the suicidal individual is in a mental state so precarious that they do not rationally consider the impact their actions will have on their loved ones — even if they’ve experienced a loss by suicide themselves.
This. My uncle (my father’s older brother) killed him self with a gun when I was a baby (Vietnam war vet that was never the same after he came back). His death is the reason my father has hated guns and never had one in the house. Why he hated hunting, etc. My dad experienced the pain of losing a brother he was close with to suicide....yet still thought suicide himself was an option for him.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:24 am to cleeveclever
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We have some friends who are absolutely lovely amazing people. They lost both their sons to suicide about a year apart — and they were all receiving counseling and grief guidance at the time their second son took his life. It’s really tragic and terrible. I’m so sorry for anyone who’s life and family have been touched by suicide.
Hear me, see me, or don't.
You never know what is in the mind of another person, no matter how intimately you know them. I don't know what the solution is. Make others feel loved. Be kind.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:28 am to fr33manator
Best post I’ve ever read on td.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:32 am to lsunurse
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My dad experienced the pain of losing a brother he was close with to suicide....yet still thought suicide himself was an option for him.
All loss is awful, but losing a sibling you are extremely close with is very hard. In my situation for that brief moment it seemed to be a better option than having to deal with the grief of her being gone.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:42 am to udtiger
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This is really bothering my wife. The fact that he is putting his family through the same thing his father did, knowing how devastating it was.
I can sit here and say I would never do it, but thankfully, I have never gotten that low.
I went through a period of depression. While I never got to the point where I truly wanted to kill myself, I can understand how someone can get to that point. Of course everyone is different, but I think some people, in their mind gets to the point where they truly think their world would be better without them.
The worst part for me was having to try a medication that didn't really do it for me, then had to get off of it and by taking lower doses then went back, was prescribed something else.. Which actually helped, but the process of getting off of one thing then have to start taking something else was not a good time.
I can't imagine how bad it has to be for someone who has more intense depression.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:46 am to OweO
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I went through a period of depression. While I never got to the point where I truly wanted to kill myself, I can understand how someone can get to that point. Of course everyone is different, but I think some people, in their mind gets to the point where they truly think their world would be better without them. The worst part for me was having to try a medication that didn't really do it for me, then had to get off of it and by taking lower doses then went back, was prescribed something else.. Which actually helped, but the process of getting off of one thing then have to start taking something else was not a good time. I can't imagine how bad it has to be for someone who has more intense depression.
I took myself off the meds because I felt like a zombie. My experience with depression was feeling nothing. And that was scary. The drugs made me feel that way. I hear you, OweO.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:48 am to HoustonChick86
It’s hard for people to understand, and by nature people want to make sense of things and complicate it. But I think the it can be summed up that a suicidal person is intensely hurting. In their brain, there is no hope that the hurt will stop. The thought of living the rest of their life, which is many years, hurting like they do is overwhelming. They fight it for a while, then get tired of hurting with no end in sight. It’s simple. They take their life to stop hurting.
The depth of despair makes my heart hurt.
The depth of despair makes my heart hurt.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:49 am to fr33manator
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Life is long. And when love seems lost you’ll find it. When it all seems meaningless you’ll find meaning. You just can’t give in.
The songs are all written about those who hold on against the odds, who survive and fight another day.
So to all who might read this and know the looming doom of that great gobbling darkness.... Soldier on.
We don’t deserve a poster like you. Perfectly written and eloquent as a poem. Your post was better than most keynote speakers. Geez. Can’t believe I read this on a message board, should be in a newspaper.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:53 am to HoustonChick86
It sucks, and will continue to suck for a long time. It won't be as all consuming as it once was, but it'll still suck. My sister-in-law, who I was very close with, killed herself in 1991. Suffice it to say, it was an extremely bad deal.
Now, I see her kids and all their accomplishments and wish she could be here to experience them. She was a great mom and I'm sure she would have been a great grandmother, too. It was a terrible loss.
Now, I see her kids and all their accomplishments and wish she could be here to experience them. She was a great mom and I'm sure she would have been a great grandmother, too. It was a terrible loss.
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