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re: Biggest loser in St. George vote?

Posted on 10/13/19 at 9:45 pm to
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105171 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 9:45 pm to
His explanation upthread is that pension costs are so outrageously high that maintaining those payments end up outstripping the ability to pay for current officers.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17842 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:18 pm to
Yes please. Please have property values drop in this area. Been renting here and wouldn't mind buying.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135032 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 7:17 am to
Areas that want out of BR’s shitty money grab and management should request to be annexed by st George
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105171 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 7:20 am to
Disincorporation from BR is a legal fight that will make the fight over the St George petition and vote look like a slap fight.


Businesses start leaving BR for St George and the powers that be in BR lose their shite over the tax base literally leaving town.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
29123 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:05 am to
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there was an effective campaign of lies saying taxes will skyrocket


Will St. George have to build out its own infrastructure? Will it need a city hall or have to purchase its school buildings? I don’t really understand how one goes about cutting a new town from the inside of another town.

But it does seem like there will have to be a lot of taxes to build out a new governmental services structure from nothing.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15825 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:10 am to
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I don’t really understand how one goes about cutting a new town from the inside of another town.


Well, it's a good thing this is not what's happening. The city of St. George was not a part of any town. Anywhere. Ever.
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6538 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:12 am to
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The majority of their population commutes to BR everyday for work. Now those people will have a good public school option much closer with an easier commute to work.


I live in St. George, but I'm realistic about the school system expectations. I think it will be at least two to three years for the ISD to come to vote and once that is voted on, if passed, another 7-10 years before it reaches comparable levels of Central, Zachary, etc. Mostly because there will be a need for several more middle schools and high schools. Lake Charles is smaller and they have 4 public high schools. We can utilize public school for elementary but beyond that we still may end up turning to private schools for the rest. Keeping an eye on BASIS to see how it progresses.
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 8:18 am
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135032 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:12 am to
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Businesses start leaving BR for St George and the powers that be in BR lose their shite over the tax base literally leaving town.



Maybe they’ll stop voting in race baiters who promise the world on someone else’s tax dollars and actually elect someone who can attract business and make the hard decisions that will better the area.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:13 am to
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They wouldn't if the public schools were worth a damn... ppl with money don't become that way by spending it all over the place... I guarantee you if they didn't have to drop 12k per year on education, they wouldnt


That's the case for me. I can afford private school tuition, but I'd rather spend that money on vacations and/or equity/retirement.
Posted by hedgehog
Prairieville
Member since Oct 2006
2511 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:13 am to
Very few people are gonna pull their kids from private and parochial school when/if St George gets a school system. Just look at the kids and scores now at Woodlawn Middle and High School. Those kids aren’t leaving if a new school system happens.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
29123 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:14 am to
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Well, it's a good thing this is not what's happening. The city of St. George was not a part of any town. Anywhere. Ever.


Ok. But I guess you still have to build out a city infrastructure. It’ll be interesting to watch. I don’t live in B.R. so I don’t have a stake in it, but it does seem like there will have to be a period of pretty serious capital expenditures.
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6538 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:16 am to
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As of today, Baton Rouge is about the same size and population as Lafayette


If Lafayette added 90,000 more people, I'd say you are correct.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
48872 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:17 am to
Central did it not too long ago and it has been beneficial to them since doing so. St George will not be any different.

If the idiots in EBRP government had just giving the SE area of EBRP a new public school a few years ago when they requested it, none of this this shite would have happened.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105171 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:20 am to
Considering the largest single voting bloc in BR proper right now is North BR, which is a horde of locusts stripping everything else dry, I don’t see the light bulb coming on.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
184564 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:29 am to
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Those hyper-inflated housing values are easily going to see six-figure drops.


Easily huh? If any area around BR sees a 6 figure drop that means there is something worse than St George happening.
Posted by Bedhog
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2019
3741 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:30 am to
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I say the Kenilworth area.
nahh, that area will be good for a while.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43065 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:53 am to
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Ok. But I guess you still have to build out a city infrastructure.


The City of SG needs one building, a City Hall.
That would house the mayor, police chief, permitting, zoning, etc.

On the news last night they were talking about purchasing an abandoned Rite Aid store on a prominent corner of SG. It could house everything.

Now if an ISD is formed that's a different story, but right now all the infrastructure required by SG is not that much. Library, EMS, Fire, Sheriff, Parks, etc. are all in place.
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 9:13 am
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
13095 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:57 am to
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I don’t think anything really changes for Baton Rouge...except that more parish funding will stay closer to the taxpayers.



Yes and no. This should have a ripple effect into how the money is utilized since the St George nipple can't be sucked on anymore to fund the parish for services it did not receive. Maybe it'll abolish the city/parish system. This is just one more reason we need the republican governor to make large changes within BR on top of tax reform across the state.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105171 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:57 am to
I have a feeling there is probably an old building in the stretch of Airline near Old Jefferson which could be used.

That would put it about dead center in the middle of the new city.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 9:11 am to
St. George garnered far more attention than Central and they barely passed to get an ISD.

St. George needs to make the ISD their main focus, otherwise what was the point of all this.
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