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re: AP: Parisians vote to hit SUVs with eye-popping parking costs in latest green drive before
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:43 am to jclem11
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:43 am to jclem11
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Just happened that the policy change impacted the large SUVs the OT loves. A perfect storm of a thread for me.
I need to find out what your news feed is curated to for these stories. I love a good urban planning shitpost but I don't know which keywords I need to get the articles
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:43 am to jclem11
Ell Oh Ell, particularly the Biology book.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:45 am to jclem11
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Daddy Trump ain't going to save you from the grandma or local activists that show up to the weekly city council meetings.
This is correct. Some think that having Trump back in office will cure all of our ills. Unfortunately, most of the crazy, woke nonsense is being pushed by cities, local school boards, and state governments.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:49 am to Ingeniero
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I need to find out what your news feed is curated to for these stories.
I got this lead from Not Just Bikes, the OT's favorite YouTuber. He dropped a good vid about the "jUsT oNe MoRe LaNe, BrO!!1" fallacy yesterday that will rustle the OT's jimmies.
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I love a good urban planning shitpost but I don't know which keywords I need to get the articles
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 9:24 am
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:55 am to jclem11
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all you voting doesn't matter baws this story proves that you are wrong. Only 5.7% of the 1.3 million eligible voters cast ballots and are changing local politics.
If you’re wanting to rig an election it’s much easier to not count certain votes than it is to add fake votes.
Jus sayin.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:58 am to jclem11
I’m all for innovation and the pursuit of renewable energy and cleaner vehicles, but punishing people for the buying what’s readily available is so stupid. You want people to buy electric cars? Get the tech to a point where it’s actually realistic for a massive shift. We’re just not there yet. Create the proper infrastructure and an efficient energy source. Until then, it’s work in progress with many milestones to achieve.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:01 am to elprez00
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You should care. Expect to see this here soon
It's essentially already happening in NYC with their congestion tax. Also, I love the wording of the question on the ballot. Definitely not biased
What I also find funny is that one of those big SUVs can replace 5-7 smaller cars. But never mind that.
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 9:04 am
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:01 am to jclem11
My fellow DGGa triggering the boomers. Well done, baw
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:06 am to TROLA
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widen the path to full communism
Cause you know, Trotsky was all about cracking down on those buggys with two horses
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:06 am to Chucktown_Badger
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essentially already happening in NYC
I can understand it happening in megalopolis NYC or Paris.
Bur people are incredibly naive if they think public transport will work well here in most of our country.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:10 am to Chucktown_Badger
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What I also find funny is that one of those big SUVs can replace 5-7 smaller cars. But never mind that.
Lol
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:22 am to Old Money
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My fellow DGGa triggering the boomers. Well done, baw
My man.
Gotcha. Anything else?
ETA: I am beset by tiredness at the OT's braindead urban planning takes.
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 9:25 am
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:30 am to lsusa
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Cause you know, Trotsky was all about cracking down on those buggys with two horses
Nah He was to busy developing the enforcement mechanisms of the Politburo to fully encase their subjects to the whelms of communism
Until he was caste out by an even worse dictator.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:32 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Bur people are incredibly naive if they think public transport will work well here in most of our country.
Networks of major high-speed rail operators in Europe, 2019:
Europe and the U.S. are fairly similar in size with Europe (including Iceland) being slightly larger.
Europe has an area of 10,180,000 km (3,930,000 sq mi).
The United States has an area of 9,833,520 km (3,796,742 sq mi)
Proposed map of US high speed rail:
ushrsr.com
Anything else, drunk Roger?
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:44 am to TROLA
Sadly, even if more people would have shown up to vote this probably passes because it only applies to non-residents. So many people will vote on something that sounds like a great idea on the surface before they released that it's the first step before the government starts seizing more control. "We only want to get married", "Only listen to terrorists", "Only two weeks"...
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The cost for non-residents to park SUVs in Paris’ central districts, in the arrondissements numbered 1 through 11, would soar to 18 euros ($19.5) per hour for the first two hours, compared to 6 euros per hour for smaller cars.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:48 am to jclem11
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Anything else, drunk Roger?
You're not getting European style public transport here, and you wouldn't ride it if we did.
Thankfully we're not as densely populated and value personal liberty too much.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:52 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Thankfully we're not as densely populated and value personal liberty too much.
Ahh yes. I must have missed the sacred right to a personal automobile in the US Constitution.
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and you wouldn't ride it if we did.
If it is more accessible and gets me to my destinations faster I most certainly would. Driving is a very inefficient use of one's time.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:53 am to jclem11
They need to tear down the Arc de Triomphe and put a big arse Buc-ees in its place. But they won't because they don't know true freedom
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:56 am to Ingeniero
Strip malls and urban sprawl full of monster gas stations filled with landfill quality trinkets is MAXIMUM FREEDOM.
Eurofags just don't understand.
Eurofags just don't understand.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:56 am to jclem11
I think what you are probably intentionally ignoring is that it's not about the vehicle, it's about the government 1) wanting to dictate more and more aspects of our lives, 2) expand their control over the populace, and 3) take more and more of what the public has.
Did you notice how they never incentivize behaviors by REDUCING a tax or fee (and govt subsidies don't count here)? Funny how that works.
Did you notice how they never incentivize behaviors by REDUCING a tax or fee (and govt subsidies don't count here)? Funny how that works.
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