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re: AP: Parisians vote to hit SUVs with eye-popping parking costs in latest green drive before

Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:25 am to
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35446 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:25 am to
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But what if you wanted to get out of Paris and see other parts of France?


The thing that yall say can't work here, works there.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261008 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:25 am to
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Ingenario


How many times a week do you ride public transport from work to home?
Posted by Athanatos
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
8141 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:26 am to
Then you take the train to the periphery and pick up your car for the days you want to drive somewhere. Parking your car at a hotel probably costs €50-100 anyway.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
35446 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:27 am to
This is just another one of those threads where the vocal contingent of people who HATE cities and think they are congested, dirty, ugly, crime ridden shitholes are opposed to ANYTHING outside of the status quo.
Posted by jbird7
Central FL
Member since Jul 2020
5247 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:27 am to
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I do more for my neighborhood and neighbors than you have done your entire life.


Not sure if you realize this but you’re digging that Karen hole deeper by saying that dude.

Are you one of those people complaining about garbage cans being left out a day late?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112695 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:28 am to
Next thing you know they’re going to ban PFGs and institute communism
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18310 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:28 am to
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How many times a week do you ride public transport from work to home?


Well I live on the north shore, so zero

I do, however, use the Tammany Trace to ride anywhere I need to go within reason. I'm not starting my truck up when I can hop on my bike and be there in a similar timeframe.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35446 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:28 am to
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they’re going to ban PFGs


From my cold, dead, fat hands.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261008 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:29 am to
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Well I live on the north shore, so zero


Exactly what I tought.

But you did get some virtue signaled, good on you.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18310 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:29 am to
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the vocal contingent of people who HATE cities and think they are congested, dirty, ugly, crime ridden shitholes


To be fair, Paris is all those things. But pedestrian friendly development is still good
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261008 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:29 am to
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Next thing you know they’re going to ban PFGs and institute communism


Or Soy, which would cause quite the quandary for you.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112695 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:31 am to
When I think of real men, I think of failed alcoholic teachers who run to Alaska to point out birds from the front of a bus
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 8:31 am
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
35446 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:31 am to
Oh yea I do not deny that many cities are those things. It's true.



It's just funny when literally ANY measure is proposed to reduce or disincentivize a contributing factor in that, it's opposed vehemently.


"Cities suck and they are ugly shitholes"

"Agree, let's try something different to make them more desirable places to be"

"Nooooo that's communist"
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 8:34 am
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18310 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:32 am to
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Exactly what I tought.

But you did get some virtue signaled, good on you.


1. How is it virtue signalling to *checks notes* not use something that doesn't exist in my area?

2. I told you that I actually do use the pedestrian facilities that are available, which kind of proves my point
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261008 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:36 am to
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When I think of real men, I think of failed alcoholic teachers who run to Alaska to point out birds from the front of a bus


Son, because your daddy wore dresses and had to pay men to cut his grass you missed out on a lot of masculine things.

Go drink another shirley temple, enjoy that lobster bro. youre changing the world
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
672 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:38 am to
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An individual can have a very outsized impact on local politics and policy simply by being involved, going to city council meetings, and voting.
it's why local and, to an extent, state governments under the structure of our constitutional republic is such a beautiful thing.

if a politician wants to by tyrannical marxist, he lives and works right down the street, as opposed to when the federal scum try to do it and it's halfway across a landmass the size of Europe.

this is the way it was supposed to be: let local and state governments, governed by the people, decide their fate, not the long arm, one size fits all federal government.

I think it's a stupid law, but I don't have a problem with it being done like this.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57467 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:38 am to
Can we step back and look at what and why this is? If you live in an area with an extremely high population density like Paris, or New York, or London, first off, most people that live in the city dont have a vehicle. the ones that do its probably a scooter. So i can see why it would be reasonable to push out larger vehicles to allow safer travel for scooters and pedestrians. IDK why they just didnt ban then form portions of the cities.

Hell you go to Florence, Italy, no 4 wheel vehicles are allowed in the main part of the city except for deliveries for the businesses.

But hey lets just blame it on "think green".
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51329 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:40 am to
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So i can see why it would be reasonable to push out larger vehicles to allow safer travel for scooters and pedestrians.


Get out of here with that perfectly reasonable take.
Posted by jclem11
Neoliberal Shill
Member since Nov 2011
7818 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:40 am to
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Not sure if you realize this but you’re digging that Karen hole deeper by saying that dude.


True.

quote:

Are you one of those people complaining about garbage cans being left out a day late?


Nah. I could not tell you who runs our HOA or anything. I'm not a "Karen" by any sane definition of the word.

I have strong opinions regarding urban planning that piss off the hivemind of the OT.

This thread is more about how a small minority of voters have made a huge impact on the city. Just happened that the policy change impacted the large SUVs the OT loves. A perfect storm of a thread for me.
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
672 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:41 am to
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Libertarians wonder why they should care until one day they look up and society is in complete chaos.
who said libertarians don't care? cite your source, or is it just, "trust me bro "?
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