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re: Anyone believe Jim Garrison’s JFK assassination conspiracy?
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:34 pm to 90Delmore
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:34 pm to 90Delmore
Fun fact: If you drink a shot of tequila every time you read the words "cancer causing monkey virus" in Haslam's book, you'll need a liver transplant by the time you finish.
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:37 pm to 225bred
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The CIA, especially in the 60's, coming off their transition from the OSS, was ABHORRENT.
A truly vile organization who had zero accountability and virtually unlimited resources for their pet projects.
Oh they're not any better today. Just better at covering it up. That was their growing pains. God only knows what kind of shite they do nowadays for "national security."
Oh and journalism dying a slow painful death has only helped things.
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:40 pm to EarlyCuyler3
If what the goverment is telling us is true, why are there top secret documents regarind the investigation that continue to be withheld to this day.
To me, that alone proves things aren't as they are being portrayed.
To me, that alone proves things aren't as they are being portrayed.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:42 pm to Tiger HouTX
That's just SOP. Only tell them what you are actually forced to and only the bare minimum.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 1:03 pm to Tiger HouTX
The FBI files that have been released are heavily redacted.
In 1975, the Select Committee on Assassinations determined that a conspiracy was likely.
As previously mentioned by another poster, Garrison's book "On The Trail Of Assassins" is an interesting read. Haslam's "Dr Mary's Monkeys" is interesting, especially if you're from N.O., but can't be taken seriously. If you want to go full retard on the JFK conspiracy, read Judith Vary Baker's book, "Lee and Me". She's completely fricking nuts, but the tale she weaves is a fascinating view into the mind of a mentally ill person.
In 1975, the Select Committee on Assassinations determined that a conspiracy was likely.
As previously mentioned by another poster, Garrison's book "On The Trail Of Assassins" is an interesting read. Haslam's "Dr Mary's Monkeys" is interesting, especially if you're from N.O., but can't be taken seriously. If you want to go full retard on the JFK conspiracy, read Judith Vary Baker's book, "Lee and Me". She's completely fricking nuts, but the tale she weaves is a fascinating view into the mind of a mentally ill person.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 1:48 pm to Crow Pie
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to think one crazy dude just rolled up out of the blue and "randomly" did this
One of them came very close to permanently taking out Reagan.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 1:58 pm to GetCocky11
Neither Gavrilo Pricip nor J W Boothe acted alone. Both were part of larger conspiracies that consisted of more than 5 people. When it comes to assignations, conspiracies are the norm (not the exception ).
Posted on 2/11/19 at 2:02 pm to Parmen
So while I am not a 100% it was a conspiracy guy I've always had suspicions especially dealing with the FBI/CIA/Mob connections. Then awhile back I was listening to the Dan Carlin podcast on "The destroyer of worlds" deals with the cold war and holy shite does he lay out some good motivations with out even intending to.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 2:03 pm to Parmen
Many would scoff but I think Lewis was on the grassy knoll & helped Oswald.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 2:21 pm to TDsngumbo
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People, by nature, don't want to believe such a powerful figure such as the president of the United States can be taken out by such a small, insignificant imbecile.
It has more to do with all the coverups than any insignificant imbecile
Posted on 2/11/19 at 2:29 pm to TDsngumbo
Explain Jack Ruby then.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 2:37 pm to JackieTreehorn
Think how many people died after JFK? Oswald, Ruby, Ferrie. I’m sure I’m missing someone else.
I remember hearing that 30 of the 100 witnesses allegedly heard shots from the grassy knoll. Or how JFK’s Secret Agents initially turned to the left. Or how RFK after his death felt responsible cause he was going after the mafia.
But I guess who knows. With all these conspiracy theories there’s bound to be one that’s right? Haha.
I remember hearing that 30 of the 100 witnesses allegedly heard shots from the grassy knoll. Or how JFK’s Secret Agents initially turned to the left. Or how RFK after his death felt responsible cause he was going after the mafia.
But I guess who knows. With all these conspiracy theories there’s bound to be one that’s right? Haha.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 2:38 pm to Parmen
JFK had a LOT of enemies that wanted him dead. And still the most plausible scenario is that LHO acted alone.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 2:41 pm to winkchance
I've posted about this before. A HS friend's father was an assistant DA on Garrison's staff on the investigation. He has said that they were into something nefarious. After Clay Shaw's acquittal, they could have prosecuted several witnesses for perjury, because they could prove that they were not truthful in their testimony. But politically they were under tremendous pressure to drop the whole matter.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:01 pm to Tigahhs97
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JFK was killed by killed by the mob in Nola and was contracted by people in our Gov
And perhaps his attack dog brother as well, a few years later....I mean it's at least a possibility. They certainly managed to piss off a lot of people....
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:15 pm to TDsngumbo
Yeah, but what about Dr Mary’s monkey?
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:17 pm to Parmen
Read "Case Closed" by Gerald Posner. Logically, systematically, clearly refutes every conspiracy theory. PS: Jim Garrison was a nut.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:20 pm to GetCocky11
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See Gavrilo Princip or John Wilkes Booth
Probably already mentioned, but since I am still on the first page:
Both of these guys were part of a larger conspiracy.
That doesn't mean anything about the JFK assassination. They're just not the best examples.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:22 pm to Parmen
I’ll say again. JFK’s death was a coup. He wasn’t willing to commit large numbers of troops to SE Asia. That with his Bay of Pigs failure was all the war machine needed to take him out. They took him out and installed Johnson, then Gulf of Tonkin fraud and the war machine got the war it wanted.
Fast forward to 9/11, the same entities created another fraud and another war for the machine.
Fast forward to 9/11, the same entities created another fraud and another war for the machine.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 3:32 pm to Parmen
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Do you think Clay Shaw was Clay Bertrand?
No
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Willie O'Keefe character (convict who knows Shaw and knows of assassination plot)
Character is composite of 4 witnesses: Perry Russo, David Logan, Raymond Broshears and William Morris. All four witnesses had severe credibility problems, with Russo telling a story at the Shaw trial that contradicted his early statements
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French Quarter informant tells Garrison staffer that "everybody down here knows the guy [Clay Shaw as Clay Bertrand]"
Garrison staffers combed the Quarter, failed to find any evidence of "Bertrand" and concluded he didn't exist
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Like the FBI in 1963, Garrison's researchers combed the French Quarter for "Clay Bertrand," the man Dean Andrews said had called him on the day after the assassination and suggested that Andrews go to Dallas to legally represent Oswald. What was the result? The following memo was written by Garrison's chief investigator, Lou Ivon.
M E M O R A N D U M
February 25, 1967
TO: JIM GARRISON
FROM: LOUIS IVON
RE: CLAY BERTRAND
To ascertain the location of one CLAY BERTRAND, I put out numerous inquiries and made contact with several sources in the French Quarter area. From the information we have obtained concerning this subject, I'm almost positive from my contacts that they would have known or heard of a CLAY BERTRAND. The information I received was negative results.
On February 22, 1967, I was approached by "BUBBIE" PETTINGILL in the Fountainbleu Motor Hotel, located on Tulane Avenue, whom I had earlier contacted about CLAY BERTRAND. He stated that DEAN ANDREWS admitted to him that CLAY BERTRAND never existed.
Ivon was not the only Garrison staffer to reach this conclusion. Assistant DA Andrew "Moo-Moo" Sciambra was given the task of "squeezing" the French Quarter to get information from homosexual informants. He admitted to author Edward Jay Epstein that he failed to find any "Bertrand." See Epstein's The Assassination Chronicles (New York, 1992), p. 196.
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