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re: Any baw considering the Navy Seal fitness screen test

Posted on 1/13/23 at 10:07 am to
Posted by Mr Breeze
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Posted on 1/13/23 at 10:07 am to
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The physical demands are far less preferred over the mental.

This is the attribute that gets overlooked.

Think you can do the optimum? Perhaps, but do it every day for a month and see how it goes.

Seals, Force Recon (now Raiders) and Green Berets are a different breed from the normal, athletic human.
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 10:22 am to
Took me 2.5 minutes just read the damned list.

Out
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 1/13/23 at 10:23 am to
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Force Recon (now Raiders)


Not to derail such an awesome thread but the Corps still has Recon. Recon units still fall under the the chain of command within the USMC where the Raiders have a more dual function role where they fall under the direction of SOCOM directly and indirectly within the USMC. The Raiders were formed with a different skill set than Recon although the initial pull of Devils was mostly from the Recon community. However, their mission directives are still fuzzy within the SOCOM community. They were basically formed to get a seat at that table and are still treading their way through getting ops thrown their way.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 1/13/23 at 10:29 am to
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quote:The physical demands are far less preferred over the mental.

This is the attribute that gets overlooked.


Correct. And you guys are overplaying how athletic the avg seal is. Yes early on they work out and those guys train incredibly hard for Buds. But plenty of them are also not world class athletes. I’d bet 90%+ can’t meet the optimum for all categories in buds. I’ll play the race card a little and say there’s not many black guys that can meet the swim.

Then you have a lot of gym rats, but most of those guys aren’t also able to swim or run that.

But a lot of the guys won’t give up and are exceptional in a couple categories.
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 10:32 am
Posted by Mr Breeze
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/13/23 at 10:38 am to
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Not to derail such an awesome thread but the Corps still has Recon

I knew and wasn't clear, thanks for clarifying.

I also knew in my time I wasn't Force Recon material.



S/F Devil Dogs
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138078 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 10:40 am to
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If you cant do that right now you are a sad excuse of a man.


I bet you can do 40 pull ups in that time considering your lower body is so tiny
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
6497 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 10:45 am to
Would be hard for most posters since the large majority here are 6'2+ and 245lbs.

Most SEALS are well under 6'0 (average is (5'8/5'9) and 160-170lbs.
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10965 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 11:02 am to
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But a lot of the guys won’t give up


That is really what separates you making it through BUD/S is having the mind set that you will not quit. It's not like you have to be a workout warrior, just be in good enough shape to finish what the instructors throw at you and just be able to survive some miserable arse sometimes downright frigid surf conditions for 6 months. I know a bunch of Frogmen and BUD/S was literally a cake walk once they make it to the Teams. Shite, only a few are guys that I would say holy frick, this guy is a DEVGRU class Navy SEAL. Most of them look like surfers and not your typical military guy walking around with a high and tight looking fresh out of boot.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
38217 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 11:04 am to
swim and pull ups would frick my shite up. Im a distance runner so you can imagine why I'd struggle with pull ups.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
18770 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 11:07 am to
Sorry we can’t all be Spartan warriors like yourself
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 11:27 am to
Frankly seems a little misguided. I don't think the guy who succeeds at combat is necessarily the guy who can do 100 pull-ups or whatever. Bravery, quick thinking, and sufficient callousness to actually shoot at people are much more important.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60136 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 11:34 am to
I can pull off the optimum on everything but swimming. I think I could go 500 yards in about 4 hours with a break every 3 yards.

I’m a stallion on land. Water is my kryptonite.
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 11:35 am
Posted by Cooterlane
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2022
1409 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 11:47 am to
The swim is not bad, push ups not bad, sit ups not bad. Pull ups ridiculous, took 6 months to get to 15. The run at 210 pounds was the killer.
Learn to run with a boat on your head, in boots, in the sand.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60136 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 11:50 am to
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The swim is not bad, push ups not bad, sit ups not bad. Pull ups ridiculous, took 6 months to get to 15.


Different strokes. I could pul off 25 cold and out of shape.

Swimming = autofail for me
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
25616 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 11:57 am to
quote:

The physical demands are far less preferred over the mental.


quote:

"One of the tests is they make you dive to the bottom of a pool and tie five knots," the Shooter says. "One guy got to the fifth knot and blacked out underwater. We pulled him up and he was, like, dead. They made the class face the fence while they tried to resuscitate him. The first words as he spit out water were 'Did I pass? Did I tie the fifth knot?' The instructor told him, 'We didn't want to find out if you could tie the knots, you a-hole, we wanted to know how hard you'd push yourself. You killed yourself. You passed.'"
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56623 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 12:03 pm to
The amount of people in this thread that can run a sub 6 mile for almost 9 minutes is not shocking at all and totally expected.
Posted by Spasweezy
Unfortunately, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
7178 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 12:07 pm to
In my most athletic days I could do all the optimum ones except that swim. That swim really weeds a lot of folks out. I just never could get into swimming laps and working on form. Today…I would fall somewhere between the minimum and optimum except for the swim again.
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10965 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 1:55 pm to
Yeah Dive Phase really is a challenge but it’s post Hell Week and most candidates that can make it past that without ringing the bell stand a pretty good chance of making it to graduation unless they get injured or just spazz out completely in the pool. At that point the quitters have tapped out already. Luckily you have a dive buddy that is gonna push you and vice versa. You just hope they can swim good if you suck because if you both can’t y’all are both fricked.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
28253 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 2:17 pm to
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The physical demands are far less preferred over the mental.

Yeah, all the SEALS I met in the Navy were physically fit, of course. I was a better runner than most of them. More importantly, every one of them was crazy in way or another.
Posted by LSUandAU
Key West, FL & Malibu (L.A.), CA
Member since Apr 2009
5159 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 2:33 pm to
The events are performed in that order too, with 10 minute rests in between...the swim leads off and it is exhausting regardless of your performance.
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