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Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:05 am to mule74
Things are not trending in a particular positive direction, but the collapse isn't nearly as pronounced if you stop consuming social media and cable news.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:05 am to mule74
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Politically, my dad thought that Bill Clinton was the antichrist. In retrospect, most of his policies would make him borderline far right.
Bill Clinton was an almost carbon copy of Ronald W. Reagan, politically.. both hardcore centrists, one leaned slightly left and the other slightly right .. RWR would be kicked out of today’s Maga party and labeled a “RINO .”
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:06 am to TejasHorn
quote:this is implying that everything he’s saying isn’t real and isn’t visible in the real world. It is.
Get off the internet/social media and news roller coaster for a while.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:10 am to mule74
The Fake News reporting Gloom and Doom 24/7 plus the internet.
It's the Democrats strategy to keep everyone divided, scared and pissed off.
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It's the Democrats strategy to keep everyone divided, scared and pissed off.
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:13 am to mule74
To stabilize it will take regulating and restricting social media (and banning shite like OF and prediction markets) like the chicoms are doing, but that puts us in an existential conundrum with our beliefs as a country.
But we already gave away our freedoms for airport pat downs and warrantless surveillance, so who knows what else we'll be willing to let the government do. I guess whatever social media algorithms tell us to do.
But we already gave away our freedoms for airport pat downs and warrantless surveillance, so who knows what else we'll be willing to let the government do. I guess whatever social media algorithms tell us to do.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:14 am to mule74
OP is right---the decline is very real.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:14 am to GreatLakesTiger24
I think M-F dynamics are front and center in all of this. Young men are pushed to replace real M-F chasing and relationships with terrible, fake stuff. And those with the abilities to chase high value women are chasing influencers 75% of the time. Granted, I'm not in this space, but based on observing younger relatives it certainly seems like that.
I think men bankrupting the influencer culture would be a way to do this from the M side of the equation. OF gets the attention, but it's way bigger than that. Most girls aren't on OF, but most are preening for attention on some socials. Some will say it's for female approval/gaze (and I think that's partly true), but I think that dies out quickly if men stop playing their part in it.
But realistically, they probably won't. Which makes me think this dynamic, which is upstream from a lot of the other stuff that we claim is a societal ill - won't change until women determine that none of this is making them happy (and of course, it isn't).
I think men bankrupting the influencer culture would be a way to do this from the M side of the equation. OF gets the attention, but it's way bigger than that. Most girls aren't on OF, but most are preening for attention on some socials. Some will say it's for female approval/gaze (and I think that's partly true), but I think that dies out quickly if men stop playing their part in it.
But realistically, they probably won't. Which makes me think this dynamic, which is upstream from a lot of the other stuff that we claim is a societal ill - won't change until women determine that none of this is making them happy (and of course, it isn't).
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:16 am to TejasHorn
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Get off the internet/social media and news roller coaster for a while.
The whole business model is based on fear and anxiety
This right here, society isn't collapsing. You are addicted to the news cycle.
Everyone else is living their life, you should try it sometime. Stop worrying about everyone else
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 9:16 am
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:17 am to slidingstop
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Whether or not its evolving in a positive way or negative way depends on one's perspective and the aspect your are observing. Every generation thinks the generation behind it is doomed and the world is turning to shite. Been that way since day one. Yet here we still are.
This is partly true. But I'm not aware of any historical precedent for what we're seeing on birth rates, and even more than that, the affirmative decisions by people that they don't want to have kids. We have no idea what that looks like in 10/20/30 years.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:17 am to mule74
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I’m 42
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does it feel like society is collapsing?
This is what happens when boomers like you vote for unlimited immigration, welfare, food stamps etc
Luckily millenials are about to take over and fix everything
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:18 am to Pettifogger
Somebody posted a video on here a couple of months ago of how people met their partners through history. It's mostly online now. I don't think that is good for society, but if it helps people meet someone more easily, maybe I'm wrong. But, it was already difficult for a regular baw just to compete with other guys locally for women. How does that baw stand a chance now when that girl is getting barraged every day on social media and dating sites?
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:19 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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this is implying that everything he’s saying isn’t real and isn’t visible in the real world. It is.
No it isn't. It's saying that 80 million more people in the country than 30 years ago + social media = a perception everything is falling apart across the nation at an alarming rate when in reality, it's just more observable.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:21 am to Baers Foot
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To stabilize it will take regulating and restricting social media (and banning shite like OF and prediction markets) like the chicoms are doing, but that puts us in an existential conundrum with our beliefs as a country.
But we already gave away our freedoms for airport pat downs and warrantless surveillance, so who knows what else we'll be willing to let the government do. I guess whatever social media algorithms tell us to do.
COVID lockdowns are a prime example of a) how people are quick to obey without questioning, and b) how fast it can come
Fortunately, here in America, we are not yet at the stage where the Government can completely lock us down like China/North Korea. You can go from suggestion (you should), to shaming (you're evil if), to fear, to coercion (you're going to prison, if). We have not yet reached Coercion stage, and when we do, it will get ugly. The Mark of the Beast will be the ultimate coercion.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:23 am to el Gaucho
The whole Forth Turning theory looks to be pretty credible right now.
Going off of that, It started with the crash in 08.
Takes about 2 decades to get through a "turning" time period.
Hopefully we can get through with a minimum of lives lost.
And, right now, looks like the Dollar will stay the global reserve currency.
So, for the USA, another good to great eighty years.
Europe on the other hand....
Going off of that, It started with the crash in 08.
Takes about 2 decades to get through a "turning" time period.
Hopefully we can get through with a minimum of lives lost.
And, right now, looks like the Dollar will stay the global reserve currency.
So, for the USA, another good to great eighty years.
Europe on the other hand....
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:26 am to Bunk Moreland
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Somebody posted a video on here a couple of months ago of how people met their partners through history. It's mostly online now. I don't think that is good for society, but if it helps people meet someone more easily, maybe I'm wrong. But, it was already difficult for a regular baw just to compete with other guys locally for women. How does that baw stand a chance now when that girl is getting barraged every day on social media and dating sites?
Yeah, there are all sorts of pretty neutral points like this that aren't incendiary or alarmist or whatever but point to a fundamentally changed world with pretty obvious on the ground impacts for regular people.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:26 am to facher08
quote:America was 75% white, had a moderate budget deficit and debt, a 25% higher birth rate, and a median home price of about 115k 30 years ago
No it isn't. It's saying that 80 million more people in the country than 30 years ago + social media = a perception everything is falling apart across the nation at an alarming rate when in reality, it's just more observable.
Things are very very bad. It’s not imagined
ETA - not to mention significantly worse education and acceptance of increasingly deviant behavior
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 9:29 am
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:27 am to mule74
When u put it that way maybe we are living through the Weimar
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:31 am to mule74
Yes. It’s getting worse and evil abounds.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:33 am to Supermoto Tiger
It really is. I started making it at home. Man, the money I save! $10s of dollars a month. Game. Changer.
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