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re: Am I just getting older or does it feel like society is collapsing?
Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:15 pm to mule74
Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:15 pm to mule74
I haven't read all the responses but society is moving downward IMO.
The biggest sign is the that we are becoming a low-trust society as every store has to lock-up more and more items.
It wasn't that long ago that I could walk into Lowes or HD and grab a weedeater or blower on my own. And now they are locked up.
And this is in NW Florida.
And you see it in drug stores etc.
And the trend will not stop much less be reversed....
The biggest sign is the that we are becoming a low-trust society as every store has to lock-up more and more items.
It wasn't that long ago that I could walk into Lowes or HD and grab a weedeater or blower on my own. And now they are locked up.
And this is in NW Florida.
And you see it in drug stores etc.
And the trend will not stop much less be reversed....
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:12 pm to 777Tiger
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I was in college(70s,) many scholars were predicting a pretty short shelf life for this country(during the bicentennial year
I graduated HS in 1960. I had studied world History, Persian, Greek, Roman Empires. Rise and fall.
I remember thinking, we finally have it right. Didn't realizes that folks like Jane Fonda and other Commies were already planning our demise.
I remember watching the movie, The Count of Monte Christo, and thinking how fortunate that we have the Supreme Court and the Scales of Justice supporting our Constitution.
Then I became aware that none of the 60's Radicals were ever punished.
There was an infamous student, H Rap Brown, from Southern University. News Media suggested, that he was involved with extreme left organizations.
That he was traveling around the country blowing up buildings. Supposedly the FBI was hot on his trail. Then a building in Baltimore exploded. The News Media reported that he was probably blown up and killed. No one heard of him for over twenty years.
Then I read that he was running a Service Station in Atlanta, Ga.
Time moves on but human beings continue their destructive ways.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:14 pm to mule74
Seems like thing are falling apart. Kinda fraying at the edges. But I still believe in my family and my country and my president. 
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:20 pm to MississippiTigerGirl
Trump is no different than any other president. He tells you a bunch of bullshite so you will vote for him and his want to be president is for selfish reasons. If you think he is some noble country above everything savior then I don't know what to say, but I do believe in my country... to a degree, but I think we are compromised to some degree.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:21 pm to mule74
Im 40. I rarely read news or politics, most of my tv/internet time is on sports. I think the world is fine and always slightly changing. I think keeping news and politics and alot of social media at arms length is important for ones mental health. I gauge the world by the people i see around me, for the most part its well intentioned people trying to provide for their families and be nice to each other with the obvious rare exceptions. So i think the world is fine. I dont think its as bad as they want you to think
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:45 pm to OweO
You make good points. But I submit that I can’t even imagine living anywhere else. At least we can try to change the things that we don’t like and advocate for the things that we do like without getting shot at…most of the time.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:48 pm to MississippiTigerGirl
Without question I wouldn't want to live in any other country
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:49 pm to Spawn
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I've been saying this since oh ....2008.
Youre not wrong. Instant gratification and narcissism have exploded since the smart phone hit the market.
Expectations in public were much higher 20 years ago then they are today. Much higher.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:56 pm to OweO
Me neither. But this country is changing. So certain precautions should be made and accounted for. My husband limps and is weak on his left side with little short term memory due to a stroke.
When we go out together either in mccomb or Jackson or even here in Brookhaven, I keep my eyes open.
That’s all I’m saying.
When we go out together either in mccomb or Jackson or even here in Brookhaven, I keep my eyes open.
That’s all I’m saying.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:59 pm to mule74
I think they are speeding up the clocks...I'M NOT JOKING!
Posted on 5/12/26 at 10:37 pm to OweO
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Without question I wouldn't want to live in any other country
Ok.. i can respect that.. but ill take an opposing view.. im not in the business of changing people’s minds, i dont have any need to be “right”.. ill just contribute my own experience .. but trust me, i dont have all the answers, im no expert, and what works for me might not work for you, or for the guy down the street …. My current job takes me overseas regularly, and ive been fortunate to work and live in other countries outside of the US.. before this work, i had rarely traveled and had only been outside of America a couple of times .. from what i have seen, the average (non-Billionaire, non- multimillionaire) person gets much more bang for the buck in countries not named the United States.. in most countries, you are not working your balls off, white-knuckling it and struggling just to barely stay afloat.. the healthcare in many places like Vietnam and Malaysia and Thailand is top-notch and world-class, at a fraction of US prices.. even the food is typically much fresher and more affordable outside of the US…and i dont think most Americans realize how much weight it lifts off your shoulders when you can walk around without having your head on a swivel cause some maniac with a firearm might kill you.. though you should still look out for scooters and motorbikes whizzing past you… no place on Earth is perfect, and my philosophy is that everything in life comes with tradeoffs…. But my experience over the last few years has been truly eye-opening, and has convinced me that , whenever the day comes that i can fully-retire, i will do so in a country outside of the US, most likely in South America or in Asia .. again, not trying to change minds here- but my own mind has seen enough, and gathered enough evidence that ill never look at America the same way again .
Posted on 5/12/26 at 10:45 pm to MBclass83
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Most great civilizations historically dont last more than about 200 years.
Please let me know what great civilizations didn’t last 200 years
Posted on 5/13/26 at 3:51 am to nicholastiger
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all today's issues have always been here
I disagree with this statement. The USA was a relatively homogeneous society until mass immigration from “anywhere but Europe”.
Telling a person in High School from the 1980s that Hispanics would be the majority population in their children’s lifetime would sound preposterous. The 1992 election cycle did not have Hispanics as statistically relevant for polling.
On that note. Telling someone that they would see a Muslim influx in this country so severe, that sharia law would be applied in parts of this country in their lifetime would get you laughed out of a room.
The highest elected officials would never state that white males were the most dangerous problem our country faced in the 19xx’s.
I do agree with the social media aspect, as anyone has the ability to broadcast their every thoughts to the virtual world. (Regardless of how uninformed).
Stupid people didn’t have the ability to share their stupidity with the entire world.
Posted on 5/13/26 at 5:36 am to mule74
Stay off social media, go outside
Posted on 5/13/26 at 5:44 am to kciDAtaE
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Social media is just exposing the cancer that has always been present.
I thought about this as well and it’s partly true.
But, social media has manufactured these tribes that we see now. This tribal mindset didn’t exist back then. Or at least they weren’t as large.
To prove that point, the cure for a lot of these issues we have and these mental illnesses we see now is to put down your device. I truthfully believe that it make a world of difference. Algorithms keep us separated and brainwashes everyone to one side or another.
Posted on 5/13/26 at 6:54 am to namvet6566
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Spend some time in Europe, we are a third World Country compared to some of their way of life. Are they perfect no…but…have some good traits
this is such a lazy vague meaningless take. you’ll more than likely not return to this thread, but:
Compared to where in Europe, exactly? Switzerland? Norway? Poland? Southern Italy? Rural Romania? Europe isn’t one place, it’s a whole continent with wildly different economies, crime rates, wages, energy costs, immigration issues, housing markets, etc, etc.
And ‘third world country’ in what sense? Income? Infrastructure? Healthcare wait times? Home size? Disposable income? Violent crime? Consumer choice? Upward mobility?
What specific ‘way of life’ are you praising? Smaller homes? Higher taxes? More mass transit? Less air conditioning? Fewer guns? More walkable cities? Less civil liberties? Less freedom of speech?Longer vacations? Lower salaries? Which traits, specifically, and what tradeoffs come with them?
Also, where in America are you comparing it to? Manhattan? Rural Mississippi? Orange County? West Texas? Chicago? Appalachia?
please expand.
This post was edited on 5/13/26 at 7:27 am
Posted on 5/13/26 at 7:24 am to Klark Kent
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this is such a vague meaningless statement.
And if it’s so great, why are you still living here? Every person I hear gush on how wonderful somewhere else is, is still living in the states. Why?
For all of our faults and flaws, we are still the first place every motherfricker wants to come to. Why is that?
Posted on 5/13/26 at 7:27 am to tigerinthebueche
bingo. there’s a prime example who’s already posted here in this thread.
Posted on 5/13/26 at 7:29 am to mule74
I'm 43 and feel the same. I could give so many examples but many have already been mentioned.
Posted on 5/13/26 at 7:40 am to TigersnJeeps
I also haven't ready every response, but I'm with you. I'm 42 as well and, as sad as it is to say, I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels like society is collapsing.
Being 42, as Xennials, we have had to live in both worlds. We were both the first generation to really interact with technology at a fairly young age, but we were also the last generation to remember life without technology. We grew up analog and then quickly adopted digital. We were old enough to where we would still go hang out with friends and our mom's only order was to be back by dinner. And yes I spent many summer days hanging out with friends all day, only coming back in the evening.
We quickly learned computers, yet we still remember growing up without computers. I remember in 1996 when my dad bought our first home PC. He gave up getting it up and running after 3 days. I got it up and running overnight.
But I get what you're saying. Back in the 90's, even early and mid 2000s, stuff just seemed to work. People seemed happier, friendlier and less stressed. Customer service was far better, even going out to eat at a place like Olive Garden seemed like a big deal.
Nowadays you can't ever get a representative, nobody really cares about doing a good job in service industry jobs, half the time you have to flag down your server. Never mind then you go into a retail store and half the store is locked up, and as TigernJeeps said, those are in good areas.
Kids now do not seem as cultured and honestly come off as far less intelligent. As others have said, we now live in a low trust society. Trust in our institutions, especially government, has collapsed. Even trust in things like education and health care has collapsed.
I hate to say it, but it honestly feels like 2008 all over again. People are still spending like drunken sailors and I'm over here saying "how are they doing it?" Unlike 2008 though I'm now old enough to know it's not real and they probably have at least $10,000 in credit card debt. I really think we're on the edge of another collapse and most of the country is oblivious to it. It will be credit card debt that will burst the bubble this time though instead of real estate and banks.
Sadly I don't see the trend reversing. Idiocracy was supposed to be a comedy, now it's turned into a documentary.
Being 42, as Xennials, we have had to live in both worlds. We were both the first generation to really interact with technology at a fairly young age, but we were also the last generation to remember life without technology. We grew up analog and then quickly adopted digital. We were old enough to where we would still go hang out with friends and our mom's only order was to be back by dinner. And yes I spent many summer days hanging out with friends all day, only coming back in the evening.
We quickly learned computers, yet we still remember growing up without computers. I remember in 1996 when my dad bought our first home PC. He gave up getting it up and running after 3 days. I got it up and running overnight.
But I get what you're saying. Back in the 90's, even early and mid 2000s, stuff just seemed to work. People seemed happier, friendlier and less stressed. Customer service was far better, even going out to eat at a place like Olive Garden seemed like a big deal.
Nowadays you can't ever get a representative, nobody really cares about doing a good job in service industry jobs, half the time you have to flag down your server. Never mind then you go into a retail store and half the store is locked up, and as TigernJeeps said, those are in good areas.
Kids now do not seem as cultured and honestly come off as far less intelligent. As others have said, we now live in a low trust society. Trust in our institutions, especially government, has collapsed. Even trust in things like education and health care has collapsed.
I hate to say it, but it honestly feels like 2008 all over again. People are still spending like drunken sailors and I'm over here saying "how are they doing it?" Unlike 2008 though I'm now old enough to know it's not real and they probably have at least $10,000 in credit card debt. I really think we're on the edge of another collapse and most of the country is oblivious to it. It will be credit card debt that will burst the bubble this time though instead of real estate and banks.
Sadly I don't see the trend reversing. Idiocracy was supposed to be a comedy, now it's turned into a documentary.
This post was edited on 5/13/26 at 7:43 am
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