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re: After watching numerous fight videos lately, I’m convinced that 99% of men can’t fight.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:36 am to cubsfinger
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:36 am to cubsfinger
quote:While all of this is true, especially --ESPECIALLY-- the bold part, one must assume that, especially nowadays, if someone is hell bent on fighting you regardless of your attempts to deescalate the situation, that you ought to be mentally prepared to kill that person once their assault begins, before they kill you.
I don’t understand this. I carry a glock everywhere and I’ve often thought about how I would react in different situations. Not many lead me to pulling it and especially a fist fight!
I was raised that if you have to point your gun at somebody then you better squeeze the trigger because there is no excuse for doing so unless you thought you was going to not make it out alive.
If I've done all I can do to talk the person down (and if you have a firearm on you then that's what you'd better be trying your level best to do) then I must assume the worst.
One of the last fights I was in (which was many years ago because I'm not trashy, nor young and dumb and full of piss and vinegar anymore) was one in which I was pretty much dragged into the fight. I hit the guy, broke his nose, and then his friends stuck a 6" buck knife in my back. Trashy, I know, but you get a "trashiness mulligan" if you're young and still learning about life. Hurt like hell, and fricked up many months of my life.
I was an eighth of an inch away from shitting in a bag for the rest of my life. Always assume the other person, especially if they're hell bent on fighting you, wants to kill you; because every single day, day after day, that IS the case when people murder each other with their bare hands. I used to throw down whenever and wherever, but nowadays? Nowadays that shite is for the birds and the little boys.
Understand this: I won't kill you with my firearm, but I will kill you with it too: The choice is yours and yours alone.
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 9:29 am to Limitlesstigers
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Fighting is very technical. Lot of dudes who think they're "hard" get dropped by private school kids who took kickboxing, wrestling, and jiu jitsu classes when they were young.
Absolutely. Was a doorman in college and routinely saw muscleheads get dropped by guys much smaller who could actually fight, that 300 lb+ bench press doesn't make up for a glass jaw . Boxed from ages 8-16 and it was all about spacing, ring discipline & technique. Of course you were taught how to throw combinations but defense was a huge part of the training. That being said, all things being equal (size, age, etc.) a well-trained boxer would get annihilated by someone with some good BJJ training.
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 11:15 am
Posted on 8/19/20 at 9:29 am to bhtigerfan
After my parents divorced, my dad went to prison and I moved to the hood (Tall Timbers apartments on the corner of Ardenwood and Florida). Black kids from the surrounding hood would walk through looking for sparring partners. They’d bring gloves and one older kid was always with them to ref and coach a little bit. I was 9-10 y/o at this time. I sparred whenever they came around. We moved away after a few years. The 80s was a different time, it seemed like we fought once or twice a week after school or on the weekends.
Now that the need to prove something to myself or others is gone, the idea of swapping blood and sweat with a stranger is repulsive. I can’t think of a situation where I would square up with someone. I would walk away or put some holes in whoever was trying to stop me from leaving peacefully.
Now that the need to prove something to myself or others is gone, the idea of swapping blood and sweat with a stranger is repulsive. I can’t think of a situation where I would square up with someone. I would walk away or put some holes in whoever was trying to stop me from leaving peacefully.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 9:34 am to bhtigerfan
I haven't been in a fight since I was 14 and have never really felt the need to be in one since that time.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 9:34 am to bhtigerfan
I've only been in 2 fights in my life. I don't know if I won either of them(one was a stupid middle school fight and we just rolled around on the ground slapping each other, and one was in high school and was broken up pretty quickly) so I have no idea if I know how to fight. I generally avoided them, while also being willing to defend myself if needed.
I did punch a kid in the eye in high school because he was picking on a kid with Down's Syndrome. He didn't fight back though, so not sure if that counts.
I did punch a kid in the eye in high school because he was picking on a kid with Down's Syndrome. He didn't fight back though, so not sure if that counts.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 9:37 am to Bigbee Hills
quote:my post was (sort of) a joke but yeah, I’m not interested in “fighting” anyone at this point
While all of this is true, especially --ESPECIALLY-- the bold part, one must assume that, especially nowadays, if someone is hell bent on fighting you regardless of your attempts to deescalate the situation, that you ought to be mentally prepared to kill that person once their assault begins, before they kill you.
I’m not that old, but old enough where if someone wants to fight, they’re probably a dangerous trashball
Posted on 8/19/20 at 9:39 am to AZBadgerFan
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That being said, all things being equal (size, age, etc.) a well-trained boxer would get annihilated by someone with some good BJJ training.
If of course they don’t get jacked up looking for the TD. I’m a bjj guy, but I’m old now and def have more respect for the possibility of things to go south and not in my favor lol. But yeah if the TD is completed and other guy has no training it will be over pretty shortly. Mainly cause the other guy will gas hard after a minute.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 9:48 am to deltaland
"Fighting is trashy" is exactly what all these people in the videos said their entire life. And then someone walked up and beat them until they were out cold, and sometimes past that point regardless. You can sit there and say it's trashy, and it is, but that won't save you.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 9:55 am to bhtigerfan
I've been in Karate since I was 12, which was a long time ago. You are right, 99% of men cannot fight. Hell, 80% of people that do Karate cannot fight.
Times are different. People don't fight for fun, so they don't get much, if any, practice.
Times are different. People don't fight for fun, so they don't get much, if any, practice.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 9:58 am to OutOfNames
True. These days you can be minding your business and have a pack of feral teens attack you.
I still have a heavy and speed bag that I use to keep those muscles in shape.
Now that I think of it, the only situation that I might prefer fists over lethal force is if it was a teenager. I was dumb once and could or should have been shot on a few occasions. Luckily I lived long enough to turn it around.
I still have a heavy and speed bag that I use to keep those muscles in shape.
Now that I think of it, the only situation that I might prefer fists over lethal force is if it was a teenager. I was dumb once and could or should have been shot on a few occasions. Luckily I lived long enough to turn it around.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 9:58 am to bhtigerfan
I’m a regular at a boxing gym in town but would never fight in public unless it was a life or death situation. Waaaaaay to many people walk around armed to think you can throw punches out of a bad spot.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:03 am to OutOfNames
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"Fighting is trashy" is exactly what all these people in the videos said their entire life. And then someone walked up and beat them until they were out cold, and sometimes past that point regardless. You can sit there and say it's trashy, and it is, but that won't save you.
I forget who said it but it is something that has always resonated with me:
A true passivist must be capable of extreme violence. It must be a choice not the default. In one is incapable of violence, they are not a passivist. They are a victim.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:04 am to bhtigerfan
quote:How drunk am I?
can you defend yourself? Can you throw a decent punch?
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:04 am to bhtigerfan
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Have you ever been in a fight
When I was like 13 or 14.
quote:
can you defend yourself?
I'm pretty sure I'd come out on the losing end of any fisticuffs. I'd give it a go if need be, but I'm not optimistic.
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Can you throw a decent punch?
No. Never had a reason to, so it's not something I've practiced. If anything, I'll fall back on wrestling and go for the take down, which probably won't work because it's been 20 years since I was in high school.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:09 am to bhtigerfan
quote:You need to identify your ideas of what "fighting" is before one can see if they measure up.
Can you throw a decent punch?
I'm 72 and partially disabled so fighting has taken yet another turn for me.
Throwing "a decent punch" is pretty much out of the question but I'll cheat any time given a chance.
No more fair fights. I keep firearms at hand and am pretty well trained in their use. Even in emergency situations.
Should a bad actor throw a punch at me they may miss. That's when they become ventilated with one or more holes of 9mm, .40, or .45.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:13 am to bhtigerfan
Go to your local BJJ gym and try a free class before you shite on other guys for not being able to fight. I promise you’ll look just as dumb as them
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:17 am to bhtigerfan
Fighting after college is trashy. Also, you never know who is going to break out a knife or use a broken beer bottle as a shank in any given bar brawl.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:20 am to TigrrrDad
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That’s why people are wrong when they say martial arts like Taekwondo are useless in a street fight
The train of thought in your post has led to a lot of people getting their asses absolutely smacked in the streets. TKD isn’t useful in a street fight against anyone who isn’t a complete goober spaz.
They don’t teach absolutely anything that can be used against a resisting human being and it’s a big money scam- if you’re not sparring full speed, which 99.9999% of traditional martial arts schools don’t, then you should just be sitting at home because you’re not actually improving at fighting
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:36 am to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:Eeeeexactly. And as a CISGwm^Priv (cisgendered, privileged white male) any person who is on meth, especially if they're a white person on meth, is an individual that no sane and rational person should EVER want to touch gloves with.
I’m not that old, but old enough where if someone wants to fight, they’re probably a dangerous trashball
But if that rational man is ever pushed to having to actually come to blows with said trashball, then he is likely fighting with rage. Rage vs. Nothing To Lose Except For The Next Fix= life threatening situation= fighting for your life= a clip full of freedom seeds hitting center mass.
That's the reality of it; regarding a "worst case scenario fight or flight situation" with another white male for the majority of the standard socioeconomically-connected background of the standard OTer.*
*That assumes that you're a CISGwm^Priv like myself.
(You really ought to consider learning your Periodic Table of Virtues if you haven't already. Don't be a dullard, because I won't be spelling the shite out for you on an indefinite basis.)
Assumptions made, fighting methy people is like the black folks equivalency to fighting a PCP addict: Grave mistakes were and likely will made, so you might as well live to tell your side of the story.
And yeah my bad: My OT Troll-o-Meter gets rusty after a good week away from the place.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:40 am to OutOfNames
quote:
Fighting is trashy" is exactly what all these people in the videos said their entire life. And then someone walked up and beat them until they were out cold, and sometimes past that point regardless. You can sit there and say it's trashy, and it is, but that won't save you.
Amen. Of course the smartest thing to do is never put yourself in a situation where a roving pack of teens can jack you up. Situational awareness should be drilled into your head. But that’s not always possible. You could find yourself in some scary situations where a little self defense stuff could have prevented you from getting a whole new set of teeth.
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