re: After watching numerous fight videos lately, I’m convinced that 99% of men can’t fight.

Live sparring and drilling are two completely different things, and I’m assuming you’re confusing the two. I’ve never heard of a traditional MA school legitimately sparring, nor have I ever met someone with a traditional MA background who seems remotely comfortable in a full speed, full contact sparring session.

It is accurate and you’re lying to yourself if you disagree. No clue why people want to cling to traditional martial arts which have been proven to be bullshite when there are so many legitimate disciplines out there

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A well trained boxer would absolutely not get annihilated by a BJJ guy and I kinda know,

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having not trained BJJ, if this is true, I'd skip both and do wrestling. A boxer that has never wrestled will absolutely get annihilated on the first shot.

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Plus the BJJ guy will not be looking for a takedown in a street fight anyway

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Yea ok because standing up is so preferable to slamming someone’s head on the pavement and all. My gym has 6 black belts and there isn’t a single one who would “fight to stand up” in a street fight. The fact that you’ve been doing BJJ for 12 years, so I’m assuming you’re a black belt, and think we train to stand up and not fight for dominant position and control on the ground is pretty odd.

I mean maybe Royler is part of the bullshite artist Rener/Ryron Gracie Combatives “we don’t condone street fights, just RuN aWaY” cabal, but I can’t imagine any reputable BJJ gym focusing on standing up and creating space in self defense situations

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The fact that you’ve been doing BJJ for 12 years, so I’m assuming you’re a black belt, and think we train to stand up and not fight for dominant position and control on the ground is pretty odd.

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Yeah I thought that was a little different as well. We are taught get tight and get control. Not about to stand and base if I’m side control or something lol. But hey, to each their own. Our gym is a Sauer school.

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So, what about the buddies of the guy you are fighting that want to put a boot in your fricking skull while you are on your back? You think about that?

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What if the guy you’re fighting is a zookeeper and he unleashes a swarm of wild animals on you while you’re fighting? Ever think about that? The “what if 100 people attack you at once” hypothetical is so dumb. If you’re in a fight and multiple people attack you, you’re fricked. No amount of training in any discipline helps you there

And while we’re at it, you know that not everyone fights while drunk at a bar in a group of people, right? Normal adults are way more likely to get forced into a 1 on 1 fight with a mentally ill person or random over-aggressive a-hole after the age of 25 than a group fight.

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Also nice shot on Gracie Combatives. Royler is not associated with that although they are his nephews. They run the original school in Torrence. Royler, Royce, and Rickson are basically who we fall in with. We are welcome on any mat that has a picture of Helio over it so maybe brush up on the Gracie family tree before popping off again.

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I really don’t need to brush up on the Gracie family tree as I don’t really give a shite about that nor does anyone else that I know who trains. Does your academy have Gracie Lineage class from 6:30-7:30 on Wednesdays that I can drop in on if I’m ever in the area?

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On a serious note- where? I’ve never seen or heard of an Asian martial arts school doing that. What striking disciplines are still doing that in the USA that aren’t boxing, kickboxing, or Muay Thai? And your friends who fight professionally are training in Asian martial arts exclusively then hopping in a cage for an MMA match?

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All over the US. Its not whole styles doing it. But there are still individual schools that spar live. They arent franchised schools but small local schools....that do it because they enjoy sparring.

And yes my friends trained in traditional striking styles and then went directly to competing in kick boxing, full contact karate, and MMA (for MMA they did cross train in wrestling to prepare for it)

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They don’t teach absolutely anything that can be used against a resisting human being and it’s a big money scam- if you’re not sparring full speed, which 99.9999% of traditional martial arts schools don’t, then you should just be sitting at home because you’re not actually improving at fighting

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I don’t know what martial arts schools you’ve gone to or observed, but that is not the case at all. My son used to train at a school that would be considered the “McDojo” type based on the organization they were in. It was a Taekwondo school, but they implemented krav, BJJ, and other techniques as well as heavily stressing sparring. Injuries and concussions were not uncommon despite a crapload of protective gear. One component of the 1st degree black belt test was escaping from a choke by the instructor (you got to choose front or rear choke),and I’ve witnessed many gasping, crying kids (and adults) from the severity of the choke.

I was familiar with several other instructors and their schools in the state, and they incorporated similar methods. Like anything else, you get out of it what you put into it. But a well trained Taekwondo practitioner will uttterly destroy an untrained fighter (and many trained in other disciplines).

ETA: I’m not saying that if you want to walk around looking for fights, Taekwondo should be your #1 choice. The majority of people who practice Taekwondo do it for the sport of it, just like other kids play organized football or soccer. But if you put someone like my kid against any of his untrained friends in a real fight, he’s going to utterly destroy them. Granted, all of his friends are nerds.

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Take a hike Bozo

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you have the hip flexibility to create speed and power...a side kick to the solar plexus can be nasty. You can knock people on their asses or stop them from charging in.

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This reminds me of the dudes back in the day of downtown BR that all used to think they were MMA fighters. Always trying to take somebody to the ground and wrestle them. I couldn’t stand watching that crap when it happened.