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re: A Quick Way To Pay Down/Pay Off The $40 Trillion National Debt

Posted on 8/20/26 at 2:15 pm to
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
26328 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 2:15 pm to
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The interest payments. That’s what is wrong. At 3 percent interest that’s 1.2 trillion a year just in interest.

USA should have invested in Trump’s crypto platform World Liberty Financial
This post was edited on 8/20/26 at 2:16 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41667 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 2:15 pm to
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Discretionary spending really isn’t the problem


20-30 years ago the might have been a solution (freezing discretionary spending)

Now it’s an ant bite on the butt hole of a mountain lion
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
11226 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 2:16 pm to
We should do a nationwide charity car wash or maybe go door to door selling meat sticks.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
50031 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 2:18 pm to
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None of the suggestions in here would be enough because that money would just get funneled somewhere else.



Hypothetically lets say it wasn't funneled elsewhere. Lets say a miracle happened and both parties came together and were willing to compromise. Where could we make cuts that would would make a difference. For example now as being Vet I am a big military guy. I think defense is very important. But I am not naive or locked into my position that I can't admit that there are huge waste in the military. How much of a dent could be made by cutting foreign aid?
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
12759 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 2:19 pm to
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How about stop funding somali learing centers and other democratic causes.

We are spending $1.8bn a day on this retarded Iran situation, which our government has never articulated a clear reason for, and never approved legislatively. Nearly $200bn so far.

…and that’s just direct costs. Bake in consumer burden of energy prices that have escalated sharply as a result of the war, and it’s another $80bn.

…and they’ve had to deplete strategic reserves to avoid it being much worse.
This post was edited on 8/20/26 at 2:20 pm
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
50031 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 2:20 pm to
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If you don’t understand what the problem is why even bother posting in a thread like this?


There are a ton of problems but I can't read your fricking mind. Spit the frick out what you are insinuating.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
52875 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 2:23 pm to
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Or just completely eliminate all foreign aid and cut every dept by 10%



Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
7395 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 2:26 pm to
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Our government steals from us.



What if I were to tell you it's not the gov't, but the federal reserve that is stealing your money, printing it at a goal of a 3% decrease per year?

Taxes don't matter.
The value of your "money" does.
Posted by bulletprooftiger
Member since Aug 2006
2536 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 2:57 pm to
Do y'all know how this works?

The government issues bonds (t-bills) to print more money. Those are the debt. The Federal Reserve buys the majority of those bonds with money from its member institutions, i.e. banks. We have to keep our money in banks. Our money is used to buy the the debt.

The bond (debt) holder, The Federal Reserve, gets the interest and puts it back in the banks. We will continue to run a huge deficit and it will continue not to make a difference because we are mostly borrowing from ourselves to pay ourselves while "creating" more money in the process.

The only thing that can frick it up is a run on the banks. The system is designed to make that extremely difficult. Think about the "penalties" you pay if you take money out of your retirement accounts. But, if you wanted to do your part to make the house of cards fall down, try to withdraw all your money from a bank in cash.
Posted by Casual
Member since Apr 2026
84 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 2:58 pm to
Who cares? Is another country going to foreclose on the entire United States? Is it really a debt if you never have to pay it back?
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
3440 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 3:32 pm to
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Hell, freeze discretionary spending at current levels for five years and let revenue catch up.

100% this.

It’ll take a generation but it’s the only practical solution.
Posted by kjp811
Denver, CO
Member since Apr 2017
1131 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 3:37 pm to
I think we should pay by-weekly instead of monthly. That way we save on interest and end paying an extra payment to the principle.
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
3440 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 3:41 pm to
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The government issues bonds (t-bills) to print more money. Those are the debt.

The Federal Reserve buys the majority of those bonds with money from its member institutions, i.e. banks. We have to keep our money in banks. Our money is used to buy the the debt. The bond (debt) holder, The Federal Reserve, gets the interest and puts it back in the banks. We will continue to run a huge deficit and it will continue not to make a difference because we are mostly borrowing from ourselves to pay ourselves while "creating" more money in the process.

The federal reserve only holds $4.5 trillion of the national debt. Your explanation only accounts for 10%

Most of the remaining $35 trillion is held by private entities/funds and local governments. We’re not simply “paying interest to ourselves”. The federal government is spending outside of the budget, borrowing from said entities to pay for it and using our tax dollars to pay the interest on that debt. To the tune of hundreds of billions per year.
Posted by bulletprooftiger
Member since Aug 2006
2536 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 3:57 pm to
You're right. Another $10T is held by other US financial institutions like mutual funds, pension funds, depository banks and State and Local governments. It is all the same concept. Our money, in those mutual funds, pension funds, and depository banks, is used to buy debt and collect interest from the government. State and local governments, with our tax dollars, buy the debut and collect interest from the government. Ultimately, for the most part, we are the debt holders. We our borrowing from ourselves to pay ourselves.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36554 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 4:00 pm to
If I were a dictator I could balance the budget in1 day.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
24760 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 4:05 pm to
Trump responsible for half the national debt
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