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re: A Quick Way To Pay Down/Pay Off The $40 Trillion National Debt

Posted on 8/21/26 at 10:57 am to
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
23114 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 10:57 am to
DOGE did some great stuff, but the OBBA or whatever they call it, completely fricked it up.

Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
64346 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 11:11 am to
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Osama won. Look at how the debt took off in 2001.


Revisionist history, as it stands ...

DJT II = biggest debtor
DJT I = next biggest debtor
Sleepy Joe = next biggest debtor


quote:

One of his main goals was financial ruin for the US.


That started with the 1980 election. Oil Shocks of the 1970's created the greatest destruction of US industrial wealth in the history of the USA.

It sunk Nixon
It sunk Ford
It sunk Carter

In the 80 election Carter said we need to become fiscally astute and suffer the short term pain over the next decade (The Malaise Speech)

Regan responded with the wandering speech about driving up the California coast (that he never even finished, they called time on him)


Regan won and responded with the greatest debt splurge since World War II and got through 2 terms unscathed. Bush Sr - better POTUS and should have gotten 2 terms - lost his 2nd term with "no new taxes" and Clinton responding with "Its the economy stupid". If you were an adult in the 70's and you ever heard "history repeats", seems it is all unfolding all over again.

- Oil instability in the oil markets
- Rising inflation
- Rising interest (coming attraction)
- Crappy foreign policy. Say what you will about Nixon but he brought China and Russia to heel in a single POTUS cycle
- Beltway Boys controlling Congress (both D's and R's)
- News media merging for profits over their 4th Estate history and becoming biased to a side for ratings over impartial reporting

Later, Rinse, Repeat

While modern media wants to divide us as "our side" = good and "other side" = bad, the truth is they use this division to rob us all blind.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
64346 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 11:12 am to
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I wouldn't be surprised to find out we're now paying a private company 10x more to do what the park ranger did.



LSUkige

Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
60685 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 11:52 am to

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Here is the deal-government touches almost every industry and taxpayer. Congress doesn’t want to tell us that if the government cuts back 10% it sends the country into a recession. Cut back 20%, the country goes into a depression. Government spending is pervasive.


Bingo. Currently, federal spending is ~23% of total GDP. That's with spending well over a trillion in deficits each year since COVID. In that same timeframe GDP growth has grown only an average of 2.6% (and that's probably going to be a bit high due to the extreme COVID outliers).

What this means is that the economy has become very dependent on sky-high deficits. As those deficits continue to accrue, they will also continue to grow due to debt only being serviced. As those debts continue to grow, the amount of deficit spending also must grow just to keep servicing the debt as well as paying for the federal government to keep funding things at around the same levels.

No one goes to DC to lose their next election and that's exactly what would happen if they started working to balance the budget (even something as soft as just freezing the budget and cutting $210B from spending each year for the next 10 years).
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
1238 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 12:39 pm to
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What do you consider an entitlement? And do you have a source to back up your 50-60% claim?


Source already answered - I was right

I do not consider SS an "entitlement", it is an actual entitlement. What I do consider "entitlements" is fraud and waste in the system, which a certain party goes into conniptions over if you try to address it.

I also consider overly generous Federal retirement benefits (NOT veterans benefits) to be "entitlements", as well as SNAP and the massive fraud in that system.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
35299 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 12:48 pm to
Yeah just more taxes lol.

How about stop fricking spending so much.

If you're government is handing out money to other countries you're being taxed too much
Posted by Bayou Warrior 64
Member since Feb 2021
1271 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 1:03 pm to
Somewhat related to your subject matter.......
Congress should be REQUIRED to pass a balanced budget by June 30th of the preceding year. I believe the madness continues and the debt continues to escalate because there is not 'absolute' nature to this country's finances. It is absurd the Congress is permitted to pass one 'temporary' spending extension after another.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
23708 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 1:19 pm to
If only the rich paid their fair share we could fully fund free health care, free college, free housing, free groceries, and pay down the debt!!!! REEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!
This post was edited on 8/21/26 at 1:20 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
80494 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 1:21 pm to
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they would attack pork belly spending, and defense contracts


They put one of the largest recipients in charge of finding himself.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20805 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 1:21 pm to
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And stop all foreign conflicts on behalf of the mult-national firms, creating the refugee crisis in Latin America and the Middle East.



El oh el
Posted by LeGrosChat
Bangladesh
Member since Feb 2016
701 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 10:17 pm to
Excellent explanation.
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
8307 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 10:20 pm to
I was going to say put 5million on a 10 game parlay w/ profit boost on the first 100 bucks and we should get it done.
Posted by Traffic Circle
Down the Rabbit Hole
Member since Nov 2013
5204 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 8:02 am to
If you don’t support unfettered military spending while blaming food stamps as being the problem, then YOU are the problem, lol.
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