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re: 50 percent of American adults can’t read at or above an 8th grade level.
Posted on 7/6/22 at 3:59 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Posted on 7/6/22 at 3:59 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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I agree that the funds are misallocated, but I'm sure I would characterize it as a "shitload" of money. After all, shouldn't we be spending a hell of a lot of money to educate our children? But people still bitch and moan about teachers themselves getting pay raises - at least in Louisiana, where they are near the bottom of the regional average.
Well this is a national level thing right? Im strictly speaking federal $. Not speaking of just Louisiana.
my mom taught for 33 years and gets a nice fricking paycheck from the state of GA now until she dies. Shes got an actual pretty sweet deal, nice pension, had summers off and was home most of the time well before my dad in the evenings and retired way before my dad could. So i can see why people are like teachers actually have it good and you could literally sniff glue all day and teach some of these levels.
This post was edited on 7/6/22 at 4:03 pm
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Posted on 7/6/22 at 4:01 pm to UndercoverBryologist
seems about write
Posted on 7/6/22 at 4:02 pm to UndercoverBryologist
Can someone translate this thread to me like I'm in 7th grade?
Posted on 7/6/22 at 4:04 pm to UndercoverBryologist
They need to track that back to the creation of the department of education under Carter.
Posted on 7/6/22 at 4:06 pm to UndercoverBryologist
There you have it..
The Democrat voting base!
The Democrat voting base!
Posted on 7/6/22 at 4:12 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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3 out of 4 people on welfare can’t read
:shocked:
Posted on 7/6/22 at 4:13 pm to dgnx6
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Well this is a national level thing right? Im strictly speaking federal $. Not speaking of just Louisiana.
I'm mostly talking about the mindset of a largely rural, southern, conservative populace in terms of not funding the teachers.
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my mom taught for 33 years and gets a nice fricking paycheck from the state of GA now until she dies. Shes got an actual pretty sweet deal, nice pension, had summers off and was home most of the time well before my dad in the evenings and retired way before my dad could. So i can see why people are like teachers actually have it good and you could literally sniff glue all day and teach some of these levels.
Okay, that's your mom - what about you? Have you ever taught a class? I have, at Barbe in LC. That shite ain't easy. Throw in dealing with parents and liability for children's welfare and such, and it's kind of a nightmare.
I mean, you mention her compensation (vaguely) and talk about her time off, but not one single peep about what she actually had to put up with on the job.
And as far as, "a nice fricking paycheck", you do realize that this is the OT, right? How much do you think is a "nice fricking paycheck" on the OT? $200k annually?
Posted on 7/6/22 at 4:14 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Oooohhhhh, “dog whistles”.
Look, If you don’t want to look at the truth and get to the root of the matter, which is the only way it will improve, I’m not going to make you.
But you don’t get to sit here and call everyone racist that wants to look at the numbers. They will say what they say, don’t be scared of answers because they might expose something you don’t want to face.
I’m not saying that “black people” (what a silly term, as if they were a monolith) are illiterate. I know all sorts of black folk in many walks of life and few have struck me as illiterate.
But I’d be willing to bet that poor inner city people, from single mothers, are more likely to be illiterate.
This, again, is all part of the problem started by LBJ’s democrats and their “Great Society.”
It’s harmed us all but it’s harmed the black family even more so. And all this would be shown by looking at demographics.
Look, If you don’t want to look at the truth and get to the root of the matter, which is the only way it will improve, I’m not going to make you.
But you don’t get to sit here and call everyone racist that wants to look at the numbers. They will say what they say, don’t be scared of answers because they might expose something you don’t want to face.
I’m not saying that “black people” (what a silly term, as if they were a monolith) are illiterate. I know all sorts of black folk in many walks of life and few have struck me as illiterate.
But I’d be willing to bet that poor inner city people, from single mothers, are more likely to be illiterate.
This, again, is all part of the problem started by LBJ’s democrats and their “Great Society.”
It’s harmed us all but it’s harmed the black family even more so. And all this would be shown by looking at demographics.
Posted on 7/6/22 at 4:22 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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I mean, how are you expecting men to take over education if they aren't even willing to teach?
Pay men more than women to get them in the classroom….
Posted on 7/6/22 at 4:25 pm to UndercoverBryologist
The obvious answer is to lower educational standards — Dems
Posted on 7/6/22 at 4:27 pm to fr33manator
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Look, If you don’t want to look at the truth and get to the root of the matter, which is the only way it will improve, I’m not going to make you.
But you don’t get to sit here and call everyone racist that wants to look at the numbers. They will say what they say, don’t be scared of answers because they might expose something you don’t want to face.
I’m not saying that “black people” (what a silly term, as if they were a monolith) are illiterate. I know all sorts of black folk in many walks of life and few have struck me as illiterate.
But I’d be willing to bet that poor inner city people, from single mothers, are more likely to be illiterate.
This, again, is all part of the problem started by LBJ’s democrats and their “Great Society.”
It’s harmed us all but it’s harmed the black family even more so. And all this would be shown by looking at demographics.
Posted on 7/6/22 at 4:28 pm to UndercoverBryologist
What does that come out to, about 81 million?
Posted on 7/6/22 at 4:39 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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The problem probably lies in funding. For some reason, in America if you want the best and brightest in a field, you pony up the compensation - except for education. How many jobs are more important that educating our children? Why should that be one of the lowest paid professions? It just doesn't make sense.
Funding is absolutely not the issue. Teachers are often being paid more than the position is worth. Teacher unions are a major problem. Another major problem is teaching certificate programs that end up excluding the most qualified individuals from teaching. Example: my grandfather, after being a CPA for 60 years and retiring, was deemed unqualified to teach a basic accounting class in retirement. You will NEVER get the "best and brightest" with that sort of roadblock.
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All of them?
The vast majority of them?
Most of them?
About half of them?
A large portion of them?
A miniscule percentage of them?
A vast majority of them. Without a doubt. You'd be hard pressed to find a school system that isn't implementing diversity and inclusion efforts and programs.
This post was edited on 7/6/22 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 7/6/22 at 4:43 pm to dgnx6
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my mom taught for 33 years and gets a nice fricking paycheck from the state of GA now until she dies
Yeah don't let anyone fool you into believing teachers are underpaid. These people look at "salary" and totally ignore the fact that teachers have to save NOTHING for retirement.
This post was edited on 7/6/22 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 7/6/22 at 4:44 pm to UndercoverBryologist
I’m calling bullshite on that study
Posted on 7/6/22 at 4:47 pm to fr33manator
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But you don’t get to sit here and call everyone racist that wants to look at the numbers.
I didn't call anyone a racist, calm down.
And I like to look at numbers, here are some:
Roughly 260 million adults in the US.
Of those, roughly 47 million adult blacks.
If 50% of adult Americans can't read past 8th grade level, that's 130 million adults.
Let's suppose 100% of adult blacks can't read past 8th grade level.
That leaves about 83 million non-black American adults who can't read past the 8th grade level.
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But I’d be willing to bet that poor inner city people, from single mothers, are more likely to be illiterate.
This, again, is all part of the problem started by LBJ’s democrats and their “Great Society.”
It’s harmed us all but it’s harmed the black family even more so.
At least 83 million non-black adults can't read past 8th grade, and you're still talking about "poor inner-city" people?
Maybe that's why people think you're racist, you obsess over the "poor inner-city people". I'm thinking that when nearly 100 million non-black American adults can't read past the 8th grade level, it goes beyond the inner-cities, hell, beyond black people even.
It kind of looks like it crosses all kinds of 'demographics'.
Posted on 7/6/22 at 4:52 pm to UndercoverBryologist
Democratic plan engagee
Posted on 7/6/22 at 4:58 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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The problem definitely lies in parenting.
Posted on 7/6/22 at 5:16 pm to imjustafatkid
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A vast majority of them. Without a doubt.
Just because you say, "without a doubt" doesn't mean there are no doubts. I, for one, doubt it.
So let's see some proof, evidence, numbers, links, etc... to prove your contention that the "vast majority" of the 100,000 US public schools teach CRT.
I'll stand by...
Posted on 7/6/22 at 5:36 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Of those, roughly 47 million adult blacks.
That number is nowhere close to being correct
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