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Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:19 am to CISO
No it really won’t. You think AI is going to place a chest tube in some rural hospital in the near future?
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:19 am to GeauxTigers123
I mean the diagnosing portion...
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:20 am to GumboPot
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Study came under criticism for applying hospital error data from abroad to US
It’s literally in the bullets at the top
You’re comparing socialized healthcare systems to ours.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:21 am to GumboPot
Correct headline “250k Americans are misdiagnosed in the ED while in the process of dying from their own natural disease or poor life choices.”
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:22 am to VADawg
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Just to think, we have a large number of people who want to remove the standards to get accepted into medical school.
Even worse, nurses want to take a few online classes on nursing theory and then practice medicine independently.
3-year study of NPs in the ED: Worse outcomes, higher costs
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:24 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Doesn't surprise me. I got a $110k medivac ride because the ER doctor couldn't read a MRI.
Sorry about your experience but something is off about this.
1. ER doctors don’t usually order MRIs unless it’s to rule out something called cauda equina syndrome or a spinal epidural abscess.
2. ER doctors don’t read MRIs typically. See above.
3. Even for X-rays and especially CT scans, ER docs rely on the read from an attending radiologist to guide clinical decisions.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:27 am to GumboPot
94% successful? They're good.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:31 am to GumboPot
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the report estimated that 7.4 million Americans are mistakenly diagnosed during the 130 million yearly trips made to hospital
Damn. That is a ton of emergency visits. I've never been once.. that's 1 out of every 2-3 people, per year..
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:36 am to brmark70816
This. People abuse the ER and it IMO is a huge problem. Wife and I have 4 kids and have been married 15 years and between the entire family I can only remember 3 visits to the ER during that time.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:39 am to GumboPot
is there a vaccine for that?
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:42 am to GumboPot
All that goes to the er is illegals with runny noses according to the ot
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:43 am to GumboPot
This is probably collateral damage from idiots who go to the EMERGENCY room for shite that isn’t an emergency
Had a dude at work a month ago who insisted on going to the ER because his stomach hurt… and no, that’s not a joke or embellishment
Had a dude at work a month ago who insisted on going to the ER because his stomach hurt… and no, that’s not a joke or embellishment
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:43 am to ShoeBang
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If you are a lawyer that wants to make money, medical malpractice is a slam dunk route.
Med mal is a lot harder to make money in than a lot of other areas as a plaintiffs attorney. The fact patterns are almost always murky, the cases are expensive to bring to trial, they are almost always vigorously defended and tort reform caps in a lot of states have made them far less lucrative. An attorney also spends a lot of time and money sifting through dozens and dozens of potential cases weeding the actual malpractice out of just bad outcomes.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:46 am to GumboPot
Alot of this is likely due to ridiculous saturation of poor, lower class, uneducated, low/zero income, leach off of the government type of people calling 911 and hitching an ambulance ride to the ER (on the taxpayer’s dime) ALL THE frickING TIME. The ER’s are clogged and patients that actually need care don’t get thoroughly examined.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:47 am to bad93ex
quote:False.
Uninsured people do this, Obamacare was supposed to fix this
The majority of the stupid cases are fully insured.
They just come in for everything.
90% of what I see in the ER doesn’t need to come to the ER.
You don’t have to come to the ER for every fever.
And don’t get me started on the people who simply want a work/school excuse.
This post was edited on 12/16/22 at 11:51 am
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:50 am to Scruffy
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False. The majority of the stupid cases are fully insured. They just come in for everything. 90% of what I see in the ER doesn’t need to come to the ER.
The real problem is cost of healthcare no matter insurance. How many people get misdiagnosed because an MRI, or CT doesn’t get run because of high cost? Im willing to wager that if the costs of scans, X-rays, and labs weren’t astronomical we’d see a respectable decrease in this number.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:51 am to GumboPot
An ex was having pretty awful cramps for a while and went to an er twice after some episodes. Both times they just sent her home after some "tests" saying nothing is wrong and she needs to chill. It turns out she had gallbladder stones/was about to rupture and needed emergency surgery, she figured that out on her own after some googling. Went to a different ER and forced someone to look at it and they had the surgery set up for the next day. That was pretty eye opening when I was younger.
This post was edited on 12/16/22 at 11:52 am
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:55 am to Scruffy
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False.
The majority of the stupid cases are fully insured.
Do you have urgent care clinics in your area? I think this is a big factor if they use the ER or not since in places that I have lived previously the only place to get medical care outside of waiting for months to get into an 8-5 clinic was to make a visit to the ER and wait several hours.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:56 am to GumboPot
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bungling doctors
Lost me here. 250k out of how many interactions?
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