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shel311
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re: The Compromise
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Rose/jrue/Zion/randle/Davis on the court together would be exciting to watch.

That's gross, not good at all.


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Kingpenm3
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re: The Compromise
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AD


Did AD ever come out and say why he wanted out? Was it a complete commitment to wanting to win a championship? Was it all about playing with Lebron? Something against the Pels or NO?


Sharp85
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re: The Compromise
If Ad opts in for 20/21 and plays next year and decides he wants out after the season, would his trade value still be around the same as it is right now? Just trying to under stand how this would work?


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Kennerkarl
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re: The Compromise
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Also more likely to net the highest reward.


How would AD signing a one year deal net a higher reward than him signing a supermax this off season?
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jmcwhrter
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re: The Compromise
What if he tears his ACL or Achilles at the end of the season and his value plummets


shel311
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re: The Compromise
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What if he tears his ACL or Achilles at the end of the season and his value plummets
What if Zion is instant 20/10 and we get the 3 seed and make the conf Finals?


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Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
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re: The Compromise
What if he wins a title AND cures cancer and raises his value?


shel311
Nicholls St. Fan
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re: The Compromise
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How would AD signing a one year deal net a higher reward than him signing a supermax this off season?
Him signing the super max IS the possible reward for opting in to his player option.


Sharp85
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re: The Compromise
If we have Ad another year would we consider trading next years first for say a Mike Conley?


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New City Champ
Member since Jul 2018
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re: The Compromise
I'm not salty about Davis wanting to play elsewhere--that's his right and he's earned over the past seven years. I am a bit salty over how he handled things this past season, but, ok, that's life in the big leagues.

But my real concern is the effect his sticking around might have on the club and the locker room. I thought I detected a cloud over the franchise as early as December and some half-assed performances by Davis even before Christmas. I think it infected the whole club and I thought a shadowed lifted when Davis was benched and Holiday was the titular head of the squad. I'd hate to let that shadow linger, particularly when you have a bright super star joining the line up.

I get it. On paper you compromise to keep a player like Davis 10 out of 10 times. But as the OP is fond of pointing out, there's a lot of psychology that goes into the make up of a team and a player And I don't want to see the Pels back on the couch in therapy for another year.


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Jon1798
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re: The Compromise
This is exactly what I would do........if I were trying to create more leverage for a trade.

The cards all aligned for a perfect storm bidding war. Thank god AD didn’t get hurt before the offseason. If they risk bringing him back temporarily after he quit mid way through last season, we should look for a new head of ops immediately.


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Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
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re: The Compromise
What if...what if... what if Zion tears his Achilles and loses his value?

I mean, he might never have more value than he does now, with 5 years left on his contract. Trade him now!!!


Mad Scientist26
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re: The Compromise
Than AD proved me wrong and took my job! Haha
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whatiknowsofar
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re: The Compromise
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Trade him now!!!


But what if the player we trade for tears his Achilles?

What a conundrum!!


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Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
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re: The Compromise
Right. And it could go the negative way. Or maybe it excites the locker room and gives them a boost and hope again because the big guy is back! He believes in us and this franchise and now that validates our belief!!!

That is a real possibility too, isn't it? And thats all I am saying, is that none of us KNOW the future. But lets give some balance to the possibilities - both good and bad.


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Unknown_Poster
Member since Jun 2013
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re: The Compromise
I just want to move on from this one way or the other rather than having to keep consulting AD every year to see which way the wind is blowing. In the meantime if things don't work out 'perfectly' in AD's mind then he goes back to demanding a trade and, in the interim, you passed on the potential of adding the likes of Tatum, Brown, Smart, Barret, Morant (unlikely but perhaps possible), or whatever package of known quantities the Pelicans have in front of them at the moment (okay, yes, there is a bit of irony in calling those young guys 'known quantities' but I mean known in the sense that you have no idea what will be out there in return for Davis in two years time).

Zion has all the potential in the world, but will still take time to develop. To me it makes little sense to hedge the bet that this team will be in the Western Conference Finals in a year or two.

The reality for Davis is -- and I don't blame him for it one bit -- is that, even at 26-27, his clock is still ticking. He isn't a teenager like Zion that has multiple years at his disposal to hope the Pelicans can start competing for titles in a short window.
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Fun Bunch
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re: The Compromise
The more I’ve thought about this, the more I hate it.

This and Gentry would really really make me start to question Griffin.

I don’t see any good from this. It just puts a completely disgruntled guy back in the room to sour the superstar you just got. And you have no avenue to get better at other spots.

I just do not want this dude anywhere near Zion. Ever.


witchdoc
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2011
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re: The Compromise
I like it. Pretend we are the ones getting him in a trade and have one year to prove it to him. If its still a no, we have a year left to sell to someone else. You have to do everything humanely possible to keep A+ players. Especially us.


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cgrand
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
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re: The Compromise
I trust holiday with the car keys and zion riding shotgun, for now.
I do t trust AD backseat driving

if he’s year to year that’s what will happen.

I’m sticking to my guns, three beers in.
trade him and let’s move on


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Lester Earl
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re: The Compromise
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just puts a completely disgruntled guy back in the room to sour the superstar you just got


If he decides to stay he isn’t disgruntled


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And you have no avenue to get better at other spots


You let time take its course. It’s not just about this year. Try not to think like Demps here bunchie. You’re not rebuilding this thing in one offseason


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