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re: The Compromise
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:18 pm to Saintsntigers04
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:18 pm to Saintsntigers04
quote:That's gross, not good at all.
Rose/jrue/Zion/randle/Davis on the court together would be exciting to watch.
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Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:25 pm to Crewz
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AD
Did AD ever come out and say why he wanted out? Was it a complete commitment to wanting to win a championship? Was it all about playing with Lebron? Something against the Pels or NO?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:27 pm to Kingpenm3
If Ad opts in for 20/21 and plays next year and decides he wants out after the season, would his trade value still be around the same as it is right now? Just trying to under stand how this would work?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:32 pm to shel311
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Also more likely to net the highest reward.
How would AD signing a one year deal net a higher reward than him signing a supermax this off season?
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:33 pm to Kennerkarl
What if he tears his ACL or Achilles at the end of the season and his value plummets
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:36 pm to jmcwhrter
quote:What if Zion is instant 20/10 and we get the 3 seed and make the conf Finals?
What if he tears his ACL or Achilles at the end of the season and his value plummets
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:37 pm to jmcwhrter
What if he wins a title AND cures cancer and raises his value?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:37 pm to Kennerkarl
quote:Him signing the super max IS the possible reward for opting in to his player option.
How would AD signing a one year deal net a higher reward than him signing a supermax this off season?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:40 pm to shel311
If we have Ad another year would we consider trading next years first for say a Mike Conley?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:41 pm to jmcwhrter
I'm not salty about Davis wanting to play elsewhere--that's his right and he's earned over the past seven years. I am a bit salty over how he handled things this past season, but, ok, that's life in the big leagues.
But my real concern is the effect his sticking around might have on the club and the locker room. I thought I detected a cloud over the franchise as early as December and some half-assed performances by Davis even before Christmas. I think it infected the whole club and I thought a shadowed lifted when Davis was benched and Holiday was the titular head of the squad. I'd hate to let that shadow linger, particularly when you have a bright super star joining the line up.
I get it. On paper you compromise to keep a player like Davis 10 out of 10 times. But as the OP is fond of pointing out, there's a lot of psychology that goes into the make up of a team and a player And I don't want to see the Pels back on the couch in therapy for another year.
But my real concern is the effect his sticking around might have on the club and the locker room. I thought I detected a cloud over the franchise as early as December and some half-assed performances by Davis even before Christmas. I think it infected the whole club and I thought a shadowed lifted when Davis was benched and Holiday was the titular head of the squad. I'd hate to let that shadow linger, particularly when you have a bright super star joining the line up.
I get it. On paper you compromise to keep a player like Davis 10 out of 10 times. But as the OP is fond of pointing out, there's a lot of psychology that goes into the make up of a team and a player And I don't want to see the Pels back on the couch in therapy for another year.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:45 pm to Crewz
This is exactly what I would do........if I were trying to create more leverage for a trade.
The cards all aligned for a perfect storm bidding war. Thank god AD didn’t get hurt before the offseason. If they risk bringing him back temporarily after he quit mid way through last season, we should look for a new head of ops immediately.
The cards all aligned for a perfect storm bidding war. Thank god AD didn’t get hurt before the offseason. If they risk bringing him back temporarily after he quit mid way through last season, we should look for a new head of ops immediately.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:45 pm to jmcwhrter
What if...what if... what if Zion tears his Achilles and loses his value?
I mean, he might never have more value than he does now, with 5 years left on his contract. Trade him now!!!
I mean, he might never have more value than he does now, with 5 years left on his contract. Trade him now!!!
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:46 pm to Crewz
Than AD proved me wrong and took my job! Haha
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:46 pm to Crewz
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Trade him now!!!
But what if the player we trade for tears his Achilles?
What a conundrum!!
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:50 pm to New City Champ
Right. And it could go the negative way. Or maybe it excites the locker room and gives them a boost and hope again because the big guy is back! He believes in us and this franchise and now that validates our belief!!!
That is a real possibility too, isn't it? And thats all I am saying, is that none of us KNOW the future. But lets give some balance to the possibilities - both good and bad.
That is a real possibility too, isn't it? And thats all I am saying, is that none of us KNOW the future. But lets give some balance to the possibilities - both good and bad.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:58 pm to Crewz
I just want to move on from this one way or the other rather than having to keep consulting AD every year to see which way the wind is blowing. In the meantime if things don't work out 'perfectly' in AD's mind then he goes back to demanding a trade and, in the interim, you passed on the potential of adding the likes of Tatum, Brown, Smart, Barret, Morant (unlikely but perhaps possible), or whatever package of known quantities the Pelicans have in front of them at the moment (okay, yes, there is a bit of irony in calling those young guys 'known quantities' but I mean known in the sense that you have no idea what will be out there in return for Davis in two years time).
Zion has all the potential in the world, but will still take time to develop. To me it makes little sense to hedge the bet that this team will be in the Western Conference Finals in a year or two.
The reality for Davis is -- and I don't blame him for it one bit -- is that, even at 26-27, his clock is still ticking. He isn't a teenager like Zion that has multiple years at his disposal to hope the Pelicans can start competing for titles in a short window.
Zion has all the potential in the world, but will still take time to develop. To me it makes little sense to hedge the bet that this team will be in the Western Conference Finals in a year or two.
The reality for Davis is -- and I don't blame him for it one bit -- is that, even at 26-27, his clock is still ticking. He isn't a teenager like Zion that has multiple years at his disposal to hope the Pelicans can start competing for titles in a short window.
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:07 pm to Crewz
The more I’ve thought about this, the more I hate it.
This and Gentry would really really make me start to question Griffin.
I don’t see any good from this. It just puts a completely disgruntled guy back in the room to sour the superstar you just got. And you have no avenue to get better at other spots.
I just do not want this dude anywhere near Zion. Ever.
This and Gentry would really really make me start to question Griffin.
I don’t see any good from this. It just puts a completely disgruntled guy back in the room to sour the superstar you just got. And you have no avenue to get better at other spots.
I just do not want this dude anywhere near Zion. Ever.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:13 pm to Fun Bunch
I like it. Pretend we are the ones getting him in a trade and have one year to prove it to him. If its still a no, we have a year left to sell to someone else. You have to do everything humanely possible to keep A+ players. Especially us.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:17 pm to Unknown_Poster
I trust holiday with the car keys and zion riding shotgun, for now.
I do t trust AD backseat driving
if he’s year to year that’s what will happen.
I’m sticking to my guns, three beers in.
trade him and let’s move on
I do t trust AD backseat driving
if he’s year to year that’s what will happen.
I’m sticking to my guns, three beers in.
trade him and let’s move on
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:21 pm to Fun Bunch
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just puts a completely disgruntled guy back in the room to sour the superstar you just got
If he decides to stay he isn’t disgruntled
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And you have no avenue to get better at other spots
You let time take its course. It’s not just about this year. Try not to think like Demps here bunchie. You’re not rebuilding this thing in one offseason
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