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re: The Compromise
Posted on 5/15/19 at 5:43 pm to NOFOX
Posted on 5/15/19 at 5:43 pm to NOFOX
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However I am 100% against holding onto him into the season for any length of time much less into the deadline without him excercising the PO.
1) he signs the 5 year max, we all move on with him
2) he opts in to his 2020 PO, we reconvene in june 2020
3) he does neither, we trade him
i'm fine with any of the three. at a minimum, now 24 hours (almost) after zion, the pelicans control their fate. thats all you can ask for
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Posted on 5/15/19 at 5:51 pm to Lester Earl
Right...where’s the down side ?
Still have plenty of leverage next summer if he wants out and by then you’ve gotten a better look at some of these rookies the board is enamored with.
Still have plenty of leverage next summer if he wants out and by then you’ve gotten a better look at some of these rookies the board is enamored with.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:04 pm to BilJ
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Still have plenty of leverage next summer if he wants out and by then you’ve gotten a better look at some of these rookies the board is enamored with.
I want Tatum, Brown, and the Memphis pick. Potentially Smart also.
Look at using expiring of Moore and Hill to bring in a potential contributor that fits that is on a slightly overpaid contract.
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:07 pm to BilJ
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Right...where’s the down side ?
I think a big time injury is a fair argument. Essentially something that would tank his value.
There is still risk...which may or may not outweigh the benefit of course.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:11 pm to Crewz
Seems to me AD doesn’t want to spend majority of his career in New Orleans. He gave us a chance and it didn’t work out.
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:14 pm to JustinT37
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Griff and co are willing to put NOLA in a situation where AD can walk?
Wuuutttttttttt
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:16 pm to Lester Earl
Can sign his player option right now for 2020 or doesn't have to wait until next season?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:19 pm to Crewz
quote:Honest question, if Griff and AD still haven't met, what is this being based on?
If I had to bet money on it today, I would rank this outcome slightly over AD getting traded
Are there signals or things the AD camp is sending out to the Pels brass?
I'd also be all for this compromise.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:20 pm to Crewz
I love it tbh. Griffin says give me a chance to prove myself. I’m not Dell & I’ve won a championship building around great talent. I could get you all of your money. I just got a trainer that will teach you how to take care of your body. You’ll get to redeem yourself from this “villian” role bc when we win, no one will care. Your reputation redeemed, in fact we will spin it to say “AD was right to want out, we were the ones that had to make the change.” Also whomever we trade you to, won’t be as good as us bc of the assets they’ll have to give up. Give us a year and you’ll see that AD + Jrue + Zion is must see TV & will take the NBA by storm
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:22 pm to Crewz
Also Crewz, I could be wrong but I think you previously mentioned or said something about watching what will happen on May 15th? I maybe not, but I seem to recall that.
Is this that thing?
Is this that thing?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:22 pm to shel311
AD's people have said some things to Wilbon and some others they are actually close with. Not the fake wanna be news makers that act like they know AD's intentions.
AD would be more open to that than the 5 year and Griffin would be open to it. So, the conclusion is me putting 2 and 2 together. I think Griffin will shoot for the extension, but he would be willing to meet in the middle.
I will always bet on a compromise over an extreme. But if I think one side happens, the trade AD side is more likely than the 5 year extension side.
AD would be more open to that than the 5 year and Griffin would be open to it. So, the conclusion is me putting 2 and 2 together. I think Griffin will shoot for the extension, but he would be willing to meet in the middle.
I will always bet on a compromise over an extreme. But if I think one side happens, the trade AD side is more likely than the 5 year extension side.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:25 pm to Crewz
On the PTI segment, Wilbon says he did some “actual reporting” and talked to AD ‘a people 
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:25 pm to Crewz
quote:Good stuff and good info. Something I hadn't considered.
AD's people have said some things to Wilbon and some others they are actually close with. Not the fake wanna be news makers that act like they know AD's intentions.
AD would be more open to that than the 5 year and Griffin would be open to it. So, the conclusion is me putting 2 and 2 together. I think Griffin will shoot for the extension, but he would be willing to meet in the middle.
I will always bet on a compromise over an extreme. But if I think one side happens, the trade AD side is more likely than the 5 year extension side
Short of that super max that isn't likely, this is the next best scenario imo.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:26 pm to Crewz
Hell yes you do this. Even if AD isn’t 100% bought in and the team sucks you can possibly trade him for the #1 pick next year. I’ll take that all day.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:28 pm to Crewz
quote:As I've said, taking the emotional component out of things...
Don't be surprised to hear this is the coming weeks...
Griffin understands AD's worry about extending for another 5 years, so they compromise.
AD agrees to opt into 2020-21. Griffin has a full year to show him how different things are and how he can win here long term. Next summer, AD then can either sign the supertax extension or request a trade if he still wants one and Griff won't fight him.
If I had to bet money on it today, I would rank this outcome slightly over AD getting traded and greatly over AD signing the extension
AD giving us another chance, even if he only signs beyond next season, is our best option on the table.
We don't have to worry about the team's prognosis. You have Zion, you have Jrue, and whatever else we can muster.
It's a fair shot and on paper that is a team that can get to the postseason without much trouble.
But it's hard for me to remove the emotional component. Part of me just wants this whole thing with AD to be over and done. But if he signs a one year extension, it crushes the opinion that AD will walk next season.
On the other hand, you got a ton of pressure from a lot of loud, obnoxious voices complaining and trying to stir things up against us.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:29 pm to DeathValley85
I mean the injury risk is there for any option we choose, can’t predict those see Cousins.
Retaining Davis gives you the most legitimate shot at building a contender.
Retaining Davis gives you the most legitimate shot at building a contender.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:33 pm to Crewz
Signing AD for one more year is more likely to bite the pelicans in the arse than the other likely scenarios.
If he stays healthy and the pelicans are not any good, or if he gets hurt, he won’t want to stay in Nola and his trade value will have taken a hit.
Pels should tell him sign the Supermax and be all in; or trade to highest bidder.
Another year of AD being a diva is worst case scenario.
If he stays healthy and the pelicans are not any good, or if he gets hurt, he won’t want to stay in Nola and his trade value will have taken a hit.
Pels should tell him sign the Supermax and be all in; or trade to highest bidder.
Another year of AD being a diva is worst case scenario.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:33 pm to BilJ
Here's another possibility..
AD comes back for the year, the Pels go 82-0, then 16-0 in the playoffs, culminated by a double alley oop in which Jrue throws the ball 41 feet above the basket and it appears to be going out of bounds, but both Zion and AD soar, almost hitting their head on the video board, but instead grab the ball and double dunk it. Pels win.
See how crazy it is to propose an ultra unlikely, everything goes right scenario? When I read all these scared, worried, ultra negative 'what if' scenarios, I roll my eyes just as much as some people probably did reading the above paragraph.
Winners in life have high risk tolerance. Losers worry about all that could go wrong. I am glad we have a winner at the top of our organization.
AD comes back for the year, the Pels go 82-0, then 16-0 in the playoffs, culminated by a double alley oop in which Jrue throws the ball 41 feet above the basket and it appears to be going out of bounds, but both Zion and AD soar, almost hitting their head on the video board, but instead grab the ball and double dunk it. Pels win.
See how crazy it is to propose an ultra unlikely, everything goes right scenario? When I read all these scared, worried, ultra negative 'what if' scenarios, I roll my eyes just as much as some people probably did reading the above paragraph.
Winners in life have high risk tolerance. Losers worry about all that could go wrong. I am glad we have a winner at the top of our organization.
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:37 pm to Crewz
AD = not a winner
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:38 pm to Kennerkarl
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is more likely to bite the pelicans in the arse than the other likely scenarios
How?
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