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re: The Compromise
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:27 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:27 pm to Lester Earl
I understand that. I just want nothing to do with dude. It’s over. Let him go.
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Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:28 pm to Lester Earl
LE, what would you put the % at AD NOT requesting a trade this time next year shall he opt in that last year and give it a go. Put a thoughtful number to it please.
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:28 pm to Crewz
Sounds logical and level headed. Sounds like how things get done in the real world all the time. I’m sure this board will hate it.
Also for anyone worried about losing trade value. We could just as easily sign a hypothetical supermax guy(AD in this scenario) and he suffer a John Wall like injury early next year months into a 5 year deal. Is that really better than losing out on trade value? Injuries are simply an inherent risk in sports.
Also for anyone worried about losing trade value. We could just as easily sign a hypothetical supermax guy(AD in this scenario) and he suffer a John Wall like injury early next year months into a 5 year deal. Is that really better than losing out on trade value? Injuries are simply an inherent risk in sports.
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:34 pm to Chad504boy
Too many variables Chad.
I think the Pels protect themselves from that happening tho. So near 100%
I think the Pels protect themselves from that happening tho. So near 100%
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:35 pm to Lester Earl
So you’d bet the bank that we would be successful in convincing AD to sign the super max?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:35 pm to Crewz
Don’t like it. Trade him now for top 3 pick another premier player and future high 1rst. Rebuild around the Z
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:37 pm to St Augustine
I don't disagree that injuries are inherent risk but as opposed to your hypothetical you already know that Davis on a short extension has one foot out the door and will leave unless his unknown criteria for being competitive are met.
My question to people who are fine with placating AD for another year: what do you think his requirements will be and do you realistically expect this team to hit them in a year's time?
My question to people who are fine with placating AD for another year: what do you think his requirements will be and do you realistically expect this team to hit them in a year's time?
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 8:39 pm
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:38 pm to Chad504boy
After putting all the pieces together, I feel like an AD and Zion match can work. I still don’t believe AD is an alpha but he doesn’t have to be with Zion. Zion can be the tone setter and vocal leader while AD can be the stat stuffer and kinda the best Robin ever. However, we would need two shooters at PG and SF in the starting lineup.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:39 pm to St Augustine
frick AD.
I don’t want his attitude infecting the new culture of this franchise. I’d prefer to rebuild with a young core.
The more I hear about ADs immaturity the more I want nothing to do with him and can’t wait to trade him.
He would have to mature over night and man up to the stupidity he displayed the last 5 months, as well as get a new agent. He’d have to win over his teammates not only vocally, but on the court as well.
He’s a quitter and a loser.
Thanks for all the 33 win seasons supposed top 5 player, I mean self proclaimed best player in the world.
I don’t want his attitude infecting the new culture of this franchise. I’d prefer to rebuild with a young core.
The more I hear about ADs immaturity the more I want nothing to do with him and can’t wait to trade him.
He would have to mature over night and man up to the stupidity he displayed the last 5 months, as well as get a new agent. He’d have to win over his teammates not only vocally, but on the court as well.
He’s a quitter and a loser.
Thanks for all the 33 win seasons supposed top 5 player, I mean self proclaimed best player in the world.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:42 pm to Chad504boy
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you’d bet the bank that we would be successful in convincing AD to sign the super max?
That wasn’t what you asked. You asked about exercising his player option
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:45 pm to Lester Earl
Dude he’s opting in 20-21 in this scenario brah
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:46 pm to Chad504boy
He signs his supermax or you trade him next summer with a year left on his deal
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:50 pm to Crewz
You would view it differently if it happened elsewhere because you wouldn’t know all the details. Hell, I viewed it differently before it became a clown show.
I think you also have to take into account that he bought a house in Los Angeles and signed with Rich Paul before last season even started. Everyone speculated that he was preparing an exit to LA. You would have to be naïve to think that wasn’t exactly his plan. Months after sweeping Portland he’s making plans to move to a winner... the Lakers. He checked out. Way out. I don’t think he can come back from that. Even if he decided to try.
I think you also have to take into account that he bought a house in Los Angeles and signed with Rich Paul before last season even started. Everyone speculated that he was preparing an exit to LA. You would have to be naïve to think that wasn’t exactly his plan. Months after sweeping Portland he’s making plans to move to a winner... the Lakers. He checked out. Way out. I don’t think he can come back from that. Even if he decided to try.
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:52 pm to Chad504boy
If he opts in for 20-21 I don’t care about him asking for a trade next year
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:53 pm to Lester Earl
Well you’d have to trade him or he’ll walk for nothing. Same scenario as now
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:55 pm to Crewz
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Yeah, total loser for wanting out from a franchise that wasn't serious at the time, that accepted the status quo. That was .500 and was well under .500 for his tenure. If he still doesn't give this franchise a chance now, then I will question his integrity. But I have said this for weeks, he has never rejected THIS franchise. He rejected a totally different franchise IMO
Even if he doesn't give us a chance I don't completely blame him. Because while it is not completely Mrs. Benson's fault, ownership has been asleep at the wheel until AD asked out, which is their own fault. So you can't really blame him for wanting a fresh start. What I will still blame him for is the unnecessary drama he caused by trying to force our hand at the deadline. Other than that, I can't blame him for wanting out and don't blame him if he still wants out. I hope he will give us another chance though.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:06 pm to Chad504boy
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Well you’d have to trade him or he’ll walk for nothing. Same scenario as now
Yea that’s the idea. You give it a shot
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:08 pm to Lester Earl
Who’s our main pick and roll guy w AD and Zion?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:24 pm to Crewz
Does this go against the all way in or all the way out comment?
We want to create a great culture and think long term in the decision making process but I can’t help to think that the entire organization will be uneasy all year with the Davis decision next summer under this scenario.
Having this drama for another season could rub off on Zion.
Also, trading AD now creates a clear pecking order.
Not saying we shouldn’t want Davis to opt in. Just presenting the other side (which is why not ideal). But this is why I brought up weeks ago that Griffin can only sell hope since he just took over. That is why I thought it was unlikely for Davis to sign the extension with blind faith. But I didn’t think the opt in was on the table at the point.
We want to create a great culture and think long term in the decision making process but I can’t help to think that the entire organization will be uneasy all year with the Davis decision next summer under this scenario.
Having this drama for another season could rub off on Zion.
Also, trading AD now creates a clear pecking order.
Not saying we shouldn’t want Davis to opt in. Just presenting the other side (which is why not ideal). But this is why I brought up weeks ago that Griffin can only sell hope since he just took over. That is why I thought it was unlikely for Davis to sign the extension with blind faith. But I didn’t think the opt in was on the table at the point.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:34 pm to PelicanFever
Right. It seems like people have quickly retreated from the 'all in' stance to the 'well... let's wait and see...' stance.
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