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re: LAPD sergeant broke policy by kneeling on neck of NBA player Jaxson Hayes during arrest

Posted on 7/14/22 at 4:30 pm to
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 4:30 pm to
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both parties can be wrong here, but this entire incident occurred b/c Jaxson is a dumbass.


The wrongdoing they are issuing a statement about was because of the cop being a dumbass. Just because you break the law, doesn't mean the cop can not do his job properly.

Actually, the statement is being issued because the cop is a dumbass. You know it is possible for a cop to handle a bad situation in a correct manner. I mean you have to be a special kind of dumbass cop that in 2021/22 another officer has to make you take your knee off a black dudes neck that is saying "I can't breath." Has the guy been living under a rock for the past few years or something?
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25590 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 4:37 pm to
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Even though they admitted wrongdoing, some people will still blame Jax because they think cops cant do anything wrong




what the frick

you are what's wrong with this country.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34316 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 4:40 pm to
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Nah they'll say the cops did wrong but it's Jax's fault for making them do wrong because he made them do their job.


Just not do it how he was supposed to. Hence the statement the LAPD had to make.

LAPD: Our cop is stupid

Tigerdroppings: The cop is a hero just doing his job by the book
Posted by DBeaux225
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2012
9500 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 4:42 pm to
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what the frick

you are what's wrong with this country.





How?
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
25992 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 4:42 pm to
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Do you think that police should not be held to a high standard?


No they need a lower standard to deal with Trash like Jaxson. It’s the reason that crime is out of control across the nation.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25590 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 4:46 pm to
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Just because you break the law, doesn't mean the cop can not do his job properly.



who in the frick is saying this, jesus fricking christ.
NO ONE IS SAYING THE WHAT THE COP DID WAS OK.


Jax breaking the law is what caused the cops to come in the first place. You can't debate that, and trying to rationalize it in some way is just more of the stupidity we see in this country everyday with people refusing to accept personal responsibility. It's the root cause of his bad experience with a cop.
Don't be a dumbass breaking the law, and the interaction never happens. WHy is this so fricking hard for you dumb asses to understand this extremely simple statement about personal responsibility?

Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34316 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 4:56 pm to
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NO ONE IS SAYING THE WHAT THE COP DID WAS OK.


NO ONE IS SAYING WHAT JAXSON DID WAS OK.

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WHy is this so fricking hard for you dumb asses to understand this extremely simple statement about personal responsibility?



What is so fricking hard for your dumbass to understand that just because one dumbass thing happens that another one has to happen. No shite they were called because of Jaxson. Thank you for that brilliant point. Was someone in here saying that the cop did this to Jaxson because Joe Blow across the street was beating his girl or something? I'm reference the thread title and LAPD report. The cop did not do his job properly, regardless of Jaxson. I would hope a cop tries to do that all the time, seeing that people are dumbasses all around and they are the guys trained to handle dumbasses.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11508 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 5:16 pm to
To the reasonable 12, there are not only boot lockers but also jack booted thugs on tigerdroppings. Jack booted thugs simply do not know how to treat other people and do not like to be questioned in any way. Arguing with them here is just as pointless as arguing with them in the real world. They simply do not know how to treat people.

ACAB, pigs, jack booted thugs, f**k the police, etc didn’t come about because the police treated people with respect.

Maybe someone made a “f**k the fire department” song and I missed it.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
17855 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 6:32 pm to
If only there were something that we could do about the trash on this board.
Posted by Stiles
Member since Sep 2017
3404 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 6:59 pm to
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Obviously, you've never been arrested for something that you didn't do.

Posted by keltonAve
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2022
202 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 7:01 pm to
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That way a doped up pro athlete could have beat his woman in peace


Do we have a reliable factual narrative available so that we can have a reasonable idea of what actually happened?
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 7:28 pm to
Unless Jax fully confesses ever, and the guilty plea and likely settling with his ex almost assuredly means that never happens, there is only ever going to be eyewitness accounts and reports and using objective judgement as best as possible.

And when you do that, and look at the police timeline, the police report, the statement of the ex girlfriend in her court documents, and the people that can corroborate timelines, it’s pretty clear Jax did the worst of the shite being alleged that night based on the corroborating nature of the allegations and the police reports and key witnesses like the victims cousin calling the cops, the neighbors, the cops themselves.

Which involved threatening his girlfriend with his cousin raping her, throwing her dog, throwing her around and down some stairs, Jax being locked out of the house, Jax breaking in, which disturbed the neighbors, her making calls while locked in the bathroom to her cousin to call the cops, which the cousin did, the cops arriving on scene to Jaxson in the home he shouldn’t have been in, them saying they saw the broken windows and objects in line with her allegation he dragged her down the stairs and began breaking everything.

And the charges were all consistent with that and Jaxson pled no contest to the false imprisonment stemming from her being locked in the bathroom under threat and fear.
This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 7:35 pm
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
17855 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 7:38 pm to
Right. If Jaxson had actually punched her or choked her or something like that, the charge would likely have been a felony, and Jaxson would likely be out of the league. As it is, what he did is bad, but not so bad as to cost him his career.

I kinda thought, though, that he'd get suspended a couple of games or something, but we haven't heard anything about the league's response, have we? I wonder if they are still considering the punishment.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9788 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 8:05 pm to
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Do we have a reliable factual narrative available so that we can have a reasonable idea of what actually happened?


Bronc covered it all very well. Hayes has made his deal and it is mostly resolved.

I have never understood why the cops have been under scrutiny in this case. Do people on here believe they did something wrong? That they were physically abusive and went too far?

I'm biased. Not cause I love cops. I don't really care for them and don't need them.

I'm biased cause I have 3 sisters and many aunts, some of whom were in toxic violent relationships. So I don't have any sympathy for drugged out, manic giants who are out of control. Where I'm from he got off really easy..
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110880 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 8:35 pm to
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I have never understood why the cops have been under scrutiny in this case. Do people on here believe they did something wrong? That they were physically abusive and went too far?
The LAPD themselves have told you they deserve scrutiny, did something wrong and went too far.

What more do you need?
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I'm biased cause I have 3 sisters and many aunts, some of whom were in toxic violent relationships. So I don't have any sympathy for drugged out, manic giants who are out of control. Where I'm from he got off really easy..
Sounds like you don't care about due process either.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9788 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 8:57 pm to
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Sounds like you don't care about due process either.



Nope I don't.

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The LAPD themselves have told you they deserve scrutiny, did something wrong and went too far


Why were they encouraged to do this? Were was the pressure coming from?

You don't think Hayes getting that sweetheart plea has anything to do with them investigating further?

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What more do you need?


In what sense?

I don't think the cops did anything wrong. I don't care about procedure or rules/laws. Dude should have got his arse whopped.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32489 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 9:03 pm to
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Dude should have got his arse whopped.

Maybe he should have, but that isn’t the job of the police.
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Regret nothing that made you smile
Member since Oct 2005
13350 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 10:24 pm to
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Hayes shouted, “I can’t breathe,”


Well, which is it? Could he shout, or was he unable to breathe?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110880 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 10:32 pm to
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Nope I don't.

So what about situations where the cops are called out but the guy is actually innocent? Ho hum, too bad? That's nonsense, but you know that.
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Why were they encouraged to do this?
Because they fricked up for the world to see.
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Were was the pressure coming from?
Why does there need to be pressure? Should they not strive to do their jobs correctly regardless of if there is pressure or not?
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In what sense?
In the sense that The LAPD themselves have told you they deserve scrutiny, did something wrong and went too far, and you're stating the complete opposite.
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I don't think the cops did anything wrong.
That's great, but they did.
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I don't care about procedure or rules/laws. Dude should have got his arse whopped.
What if the altercation was his girlfriend hitting on him and throwing shite at him? Again, no big deal, I guess you'd just be ok with an apology, "my bad"

You want punishment by way of violence dished out to men, no matter if they're guilty or not. That's an extremely unstable take.
This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 10:33 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110880 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 10:34 pm to
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Well, which is it? Could he shout, or was he unable to breathe?

Imagine thinking that's how it actually works in practice.

Bless your heart.

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