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re: LAPD sergeant broke policy by kneeling on neck of NBA player Jaxson Hayes during arrest

Posted on 7/14/22 at 10:37 pm to
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8245 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 10:37 pm to
Holy Jax apologists in this thread, Batman.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
8834 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:05 pm to
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Yes the pilot acted completely irresponsible and ran the plane off the runway and severely injured some passengers, but you really think that should get him fired? Passengers should be able to sue for damages? I'm not in favor of any of that" "Sure, that doctor accidentally amputated the wrong leg, then choked the patient when he confronted the doctor about it upon waking up, but you really think that should get him fired? He should be sued? I'm not in favor of any of that"


Good try but kind of comparing apples to oranges here. Both professions u listed get paid a ton more than what cops make. And you go to them for their expertise in their field, hence their high salary.

Whereas cops get paid to go to you when you act like a dumass, as in Jax’s case. They get paid to protect the public, and his gf who was apparently getting roughed up, survived to not be another statistic that night. So I’d say they did their job.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:41 pm to
No

Cops are paid and trained to act according to the law and guidelines under any and all situations they are faced with. Their failure to do so is grounds for dismissal just as any other.

In fact, given the license to kill they have, their responsibility to adhering to guidelines and laws is of even higher importance.

This post was edited on 7/15/22 at 12:16 am
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11508 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:45 pm to
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They get paid to protect the public,


No they don't. They get paid to protect the government.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:50 pm to
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Sounds like you don't care about due process either.

Nope I don't.


I sort of just wish you cowardly fascist bootlickers would just own up to what you are. At least that way there would be some honesty in these discussions

I also find it amusing that so many of you fascist fricks love to whine about things like ANTIFA, when, increasingly, it seems like all the whining you project about them just attempts to mask the actual behavior you exhibit. Your endorsement of state violence to attack those you deem worthy to lose their basic rights based on arbitrary biases is a toxic poison on this country and should be roundly condemned at all stops.
This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 11:52 pm
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
8834 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 12:14 am to
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Cops are paid and trained to act according to the law


Unless you happen to be the right color and work for BRPD. You can commit felonies and sit at home while getting paid for over a year.

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Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 12:17 am to
So this is just a get back at blacky thing with you?

You make excuses for the white cop to break the law cause you are pissed some black guys abused it. Gotcha

So fascist and racist, cool
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
8834 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 12:23 am to
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Let’s just call you what you are, an authoritarian apologist bootlicker that makes excuses on behalf of state violence


Yup let’s just follow the pathway the leaders you idiolize have set. We need to defund the police more and go even softer on crime. It’s what’s been happening the last two years, and clearly the results have not registered to your brains yet.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
8834 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 12:25 am to
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You make excuses for the white cop to break the law cause you are pissed some black guys abused it. Gotcha


No, I honestly didn’t even know the race of the cop that was on his neck. Really thought he was also black or he would have been fired by now. Just the way it is.

The BRPD chief has fired numerous white cops for ‘breaking policy’ and not the law but there have been several examples of other cops that have actually broken the law, been arrested and are still on the payroll like I’ve sited for one certain reason….
This post was edited on 7/15/22 at 1:03 am
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
8834 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 12:57 am to
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You make excuses for the white cop to break the law cause you are pissed some black guys abused it. Gotcha


And please tell me where it says he broke the law regardless of his color? He broke that department’s policy not the law. Big difference.

The officer that kneeled on George Floyd’s neck was actually within his departments policy when he kneeled on his neck. He just kept it there way too long.

LINK

So go on spouting your bs that is totally incorrect like usual….
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32489 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 6:50 am to
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The BRPD chief has fired numerous white cops for ‘breaking policy’ and not the law but there have been several examples of other cops that have actually broken the law, been arrested and are still on the payroll like I’ve sited for one certain reason….

What does this have to do with the price of tea in China?

“Defund the police” idiots are just as bad as “police can do no wrong” idiots.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32489 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 7:00 am to
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And please tell me where it says he broke the law regardless of his color? He broke that department’s policy not the law. Big difference.


Using excessive force is akin to battery
Posted by gsmith5651
Member since Feb 2016
203 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 7:55 am to
Yeah the arrest isnt the problem. Besides getting thrown out of a crucial playoff game, he is too erratic to pay any big money to.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9788 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 7:56 am to
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wish you cowardly fascist bootlickers would just own up to what you are. At least that way there would be some honesty in these discussions


Have I tried to hide or lie in this thread?

I'm very open, honest and upfront about everything. Also I don't know how you leap to name calling or placing political identity on me due to my disdain of drug addicts and woman beaters.

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Your endorsement of state violence to attack those you deem worthy to lose their basic rights based on arbitrary biases is a toxic poison on this country and should be roundly condemned at all


Good luck. Violence is met with violence. I am very interested to hear how you believe this situation should have been handled in a peaceful and equitable way that would have resulted in the best possible outcome. You Monday morning quarterbacks of the situation should be fascinating..
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6595 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:09 am to
I stand by my original opinion. Jax is a fricking dunce and I have no sympathy for him.

Cops broke protocol and should be punished.

Lotta stupid people involved in this situation.
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8245 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:13 am to
Jax was smacking around his girlfriend, and he put his hands on a police officer. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

But yes, let’s shite on the cop out there breaking rocks for 80k a year and give the guy worth tens of millions of dollars a pass. Love the pels, but some of you guys in this thread are not living in reality.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32489 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:24 am to
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But yes, let’s shite on the cop out there breaking rocks for 80k a year and give the guy worth tens of millions of dollars a pass.

Someone in this thread isn't living in reality...Not a single person has given Jaxson any sort of pass. Everyone admits that he was wrong and a dumbass. There are a few people trying to give LE a pass though.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 9:01 am to
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I'm very open, honest and upfront about everything. Also I don't know how you leap to name calling or placing political identity on me due to my disdain of drug addicts and woman beaters.



You want to arbitrarily deny due process and proper treatment under the law while promoting state violence against suspected people you hold biases against.

I’d say my labels are strikingly accurate. If they bother you, maybe that should give you time to pause and reflect and to think on how you came to be so at odds with constitutional ideas embedded in this country about due process, equal protection under the law, and basic protections against government violence.

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I am very interested to hear how you believe this situation should have been handled in a peaceful and equitable way that would have resulted in the best possible outcome.


With due process and within the boundaries of proper policing guidelines.

I know this is difficult for you to wrap your head around apparently, but cops should never be above the law or have a right to abuse their power, especially when your basis for doing so is “I don’t like those people,” so get in a few licks for me!

Due process and equal protection under the law are the sorts of rights that western democracies protect and should always aim to uphold, as they are a large part of what differentiates them from the authoritarian hellscapes they are contrasted with(that unfortunately seems far too many would actually prefer America to reflect).
This post was edited on 7/15/22 at 9:21 am
Posted by higgsBoson
Democratic Party
Member since Jan 2012
1409 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 9:19 am to
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You trying to tell me you had an encounter with the police when you weren't breaking the law, and you ended up detained, sounds like something a 18 year old would say that knows damn well they put themselves in a stupid situation.


I know someone in Louisiana who was arrested because the system had an erroneous warrant out for him. He had to spend the night in prison before they figured out there was an error in the system. And the cops were quite aggressive as he was pleading with them that it must be a mistake. You never know when you’re going to have a bad interaction with cops.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 9:24 am to
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I know someone in Louisiana who was arrested because the system had an erroneous warrant out for him. He had to spend the night in prison before they figured out there was an error in the system. And the cops were quite aggressive as he was pleading with them that it must be a mistake. You never know when you’re going to have a bad interaction with cops.


I mean we are literally only a few weeks removed where cops sat outside an active shooter situation as children were being systematically murdered and the only policing they did at the time was aggressively restrain and threaten the parents that were pleading for them to do something or let them go in and help.

Not only that, but those that spoke out are reporting being habitually harassed by those officers in the aftermath.
LINK

But sure, let’s keep running with this fiction that cops are unflinching agents of goodness and that if they overstep the line we should just accept it cause you probably deserve it.
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