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re: LAPD sergeant broke policy by kneeling on neck of NBA player Jaxson Hayes during arrest
Posted on 7/14/22 at 1:22 pm to brmark70816
Posted on 7/14/22 at 1:22 pm to brmark70816
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Cops are going to get fired and get records. Possibly ruin their lives.
Maybe if they had shot and killed him that might happen. Probably get a couple weeks paid leave for this.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 1:27 pm to DallasTiger45
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So Jaxson has to follow the rules, but the cops don’t? What kind of dumbass standard is that?
uh...yeah, to the first part. Are you saying it's ok to break the law?
maybe if Jaxson followed the rules first, then he doesn't have to worry about the cops following the rules b/c he never interacts with them.
both parties can be wrong here, but this entire incident occurred b/c Jaxson is a dumbass.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 1:32 pm to brmark70816
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Yeah. The Cops should have never showed up. That way a doped up pro athlete could have beat his woman in peace. The audacity of them showing up and not following textbook procedure. I hope you are held to such high standards in your dangerous profession..
Holy overreact, Batman! No one gave Jaxson a free pass.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 1:35 pm to brmark70816
Police should be held to a higher standard than civilians, they have the "power" in the situation and should be punished if that power is abused.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 1:52 pm to Epic Cajun
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Police should be held to a higher standard than civilians, they have the "power" in the situation and should be punished if that power is abused.
Yeah, imagine if we applied this standard to any other profession with major human responsibility.
"Yes the pilot acted completely irresponsible and ran the plane off the runway and severely injured some passengers, but you really think that should get him fired? Passengers should be able to sue for damages? I'm not in favor of any of that"
"Sure, that doctor accidentally amputated the wrong leg, then choked the patient when he confronted the doctor about it upon waking up, but you really think that should get him fired? He should be sued? I'm not in favor of any of that"
Posted on 7/14/22 at 2:10 pm to brmark70816
quote:So what part of the original post you replied to did you even disagree with then?
It's on video. Cops are going to get fired and get records. Possibly ruin their lives.
Hayes is going to get a new contract and his record will be scrubbed after he is "clean". He will probably win a settlement from the police.
I am not in favor for any of that..
Posted on 7/14/22 at 2:18 pm to TeddyPadillac
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uh...yeah, to the first part. Are you saying it's ok to break the law?
No, and it’s incredibly dishonest to frame my statement that way
Almost everyone in this thread, myself included, is saying both Jaxson and the police fricked up. They should both be punished accordingly
When you play the cause and effect game (This never would have happened if Jaxson hadn’t broken the law!) you’re excusing the police’s actions
Posted on 7/14/22 at 2:21 pm to brmark70816
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Reductio ad absurdum
... which, contrary to your Louisiana message board warrior education, is not fallacious and is an entirely valid form of argument employed most often when your opponent has said some really, really dumb shite.
Your confidence while being demonstrably dumb as a stump is admirable.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 2:27 pm to duyp
If you every want to play Where's Waldo
Try to find the black student at Jaxson Hayes High School
Good luck.
Cincinnati is 50% black but somehow this school is like 1%. That's hard to do. The Oath Keepers have more diversity than this place.
This where Jaxson Hayes learned that he's special, that he has the right to stand up to authority, that he is innocent until proven guilty, that everyone has the right to privacy and under the law you need a warrant bull sh*t.
He got a real lesson in you think you are white but.. 101.
Try to find the black student at Jaxson Hayes High School
Good luck.
Cincinnati is 50% black but somehow this school is like 1%. That's hard to do. The Oath Keepers have more diversity than this place.
This where Jaxson Hayes learned that he's special, that he has the right to stand up to authority, that he is innocent until proven guilty, that everyone has the right to privacy and under the law you need a warrant bull sh*t.
He got a real lesson in you think you are white but.. 101.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 2:31 pm to ghost2most
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if the dumb criminals weren't breaking the law to begin with, we never get to this point.
This has been disproven, as well.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 2:54 pm to DallasTiger45
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No, and it’s incredibly dishonest to frame my statement that way
I framed it that way on purpose, b/c it's exactly what you did, and then what you just did again.
Why did you assume there wasn't blame on the police officer with the original statement? You just assumed the poster was placing no blame on the cops, when in all likilhood, he was simply trying to say that people should take personal responsibility for their actions, which seems to be a really difficult concept for most stupid arse americans to understand today.
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When you play the cause and effect game (This never would have happened if Jaxson hadn’t broken the law!) you’re excusing the police’s actions
No i'm not. That's exactly what you are doing. I literally said they were both in the wrong. You're literally just brushing off the fact that Jaxson broke the law first, and somehow normalize his decision that led to this police interaction. NORMAL PEOPLE DON'T GET THE COPS CALLED ON THEM FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AT 2 IN THE MORNING. I'm trying to make you numbnuts understand that you have to take personal responsibility for your actions, and your more interested in reminding everyone the cops were wrong. Yeah, they were. To be honest, i don't really give a shite, and Jax is lucky something worst didn't happen. and that's not me excusing their actions, b/c i'll say it again, they were wrong.
You can call it whatever fricking game you want, if you aren't a dumbass that breaks the law and gets the cops called on you, then you never have to worry about a cop kicking your arse or kneeling on your neck, or tasing you, or killing you. This isn't some crazy concept to understand, but I also understand there's a lot of dumb arse people in this country. If you can't understand that, you're an idiot.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 2:58 pm to TeddyPadillac
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You can call it whatever fricking game you want, if you aren't a dumbass that breaks the law and gets the cops called on you, then you never have to worry about a cop kicking your arse or kneeling on your neck, or tasing you, or killing you. This isn't some crazy concept to understand, but I also understand there's a lot of dumb arse people in this country. If you can't understand that, you're an idiot.
bullshite, so you're saying that a police officer has never pulled someone over or approached someone who wasn't breaking a law? You can encounter LE while not breaking the law, it's happened to me before (detained no charges).
Posted on 7/14/22 at 3:02 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:Worry about it less, sure. Never have to worry about it? Nahhhhhhh.
You can call it whatever fricking game you want, if you aren't a dumbass that breaks the law and gets the cops called on you, then you never have to worry about a cop kicking your arse or kneeling on your neck, or tasing you, or killing you.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 3:32 pm to Epic Cajun
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bullshite, so you're saying that a police officer has never pulled someone over or approached someone who wasn't breaking a law? You can encounter LE while not breaking the law, it's happened to me before (detained no charges).
uh, no. Everyone has police interactions.
a normal person who doesn't do criminal shite has interactions with the police about minor things, like speeding, or being too loud at a party. These aren't interactions that lead to cops being aggressive with you when you're polite back to them and follow simple directions. It typically goes pretty smoothly. Sure you get dickheads from time to time, but it's rather difficult for them to get aggressive with you for whatever minor thing they are interacting with you for while you stay calm and polite throughout it. I can think of 3 different instances where a dickhead cop pulled me over and was trying his hardest to get me to act out at him, yet i simply ignored his unprofessionalism and politely answered his questions until he gave up and went on his way. The Dave Chappelle skit "when keeping it real" comes to mind here.
You trying to tell me you had an encounter with the police when you weren't breaking the law, and you ended up detained, sounds like something a 18 year old would say that knows damn well they put themselves in a stupid situation.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 3:46 pm to TeddyPadillac
The police department admitted wrongdoing. What the frick are people objecting to?
Open and shut case Jesus Christ
Open and shut case Jesus Christ
Posted on 7/14/22 at 4:04 pm to TeddyPadillac
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You trying to tell me you had an encounter with the police when you weren't breaking the law, and you ended up detained, sounds like something a 18 year old would say that knows damn well they put themselves in a stupid situation.
Putting yourself in a stupid situation is not the same as breaking the law. I was outside of a bar where a fight occurred (I wasn't near the participants that were involved), the cops were clearing out the area and apparently I wasn't walking away fast enough for their liking (I was walking away though). Cop shoved me in the back, and I mouthed off to him. Was it the best decision? No, but I wasn't breaking the law and the small town cop was having an ego trip. No charges were brought against me.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 4:13 pm to DBG
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The police department admitted wrongdoing. What the frick are people objecting to?
Even though they admitted wrongdoing, some people will still blame Jax because they think cops cant do anything wrong
Posted on 7/14/22 at 4:24 pm to DBeaux225
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some people will still blame Jax because they think cops cant do anything wrong
Nah they'll say the cops did wrong but it's Jax's fault for making them do wrong because he made them do their job.
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