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re: How To Structure Boogie's Contract

Posted on 7/2/18 at 11:27 am to
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4370 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 11:27 am to
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I'll believe a Lebron James team misses the playoffs when I see it.


This may finally force the NBA to got to top 16.
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
6124 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 11:27 am to
Didn't seem like it the games I watched. Either way he doesn't shoot the ball and LeBron kind of makes him redundant because he's usually the facilitator on his team.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 11:27 am to
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I still only see 10 that are realistic. Basically, the Lakers took the Clippers place.

I will bet a large amount of money that none of the other 5 will make it. People confuse "not tanking" with "playoff contender"


I think that's the likely outcome, but there's even less separation with the Western playoff bubble teams. Dallas or the Clippers making the playoffs wouldn't be shocking, it just means some serious injuries hit multiple teams.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 11:32 am to
I would be shocked if either made it. If I had to include an 11th, it would be Memphis before Dallas or the Clips
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4370 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 11:33 am to
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The year after we made the playoffs we started 1-11. We had everyone we did from the previous year starting the season AD/Ryno/EG, with Jrue on a bit of a minutes restriction and not playing back to backs, which was the same as the end of the season. The only difference between the team that was swept in the playoffs and the one that started the season was Tyreke and QPon being hurt.





Sooo 3 starters were out? No biggie
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19524 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 11:35 am to
If I were the Lakers, I would be looking to trade Ball. Can't imagine LeBron is going to put up with his shite for long and he is redundant with James facilitating
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
10128 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 11:39 am to
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Can't imagine LeBron is going to put up with his shite for long and he is redundant with James facilitating



I think Lonzo and Lavar will be on their best behavior. They do not want to leave LA and already leaked info to try to keep him there with that BS meniscus report.

I think the Lakers will be patient this year with the security that LEbron has provided them, but that team is going to look a LOT different next offseason.
This post was edited on 7/2/18 at 11:40 am
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
48809 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 11:46 am to
if that moron even for a second says anything about Lebron the lakers will place him in witness protection or have him shot

Or both
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30316 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 12:22 pm to
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Sooo 3 starters were out? No biggie


No. Tyreke was out. There was nothing wrong with AD, Ryno or EG, and Jrue played 20+ minutes in 7 of the 11 games. calling QPon a starter is laughable.
We had a new coaching staff and no Tyreke, that should't cause a 1-11 start.
Posted by DLBalla
Member since Jul 2018
234 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 12:41 pm to
Crewz, can you tell us if the mystery player's two year contract includes a player option? If not and it's just a full 2 year guaranteed deal, that would narrow the list down to my guess... Mr. Kyle Lowry. From that list, better than J. Simmons:

Lowry- 2 yrs., no option



Middleton- 1 + 1 PO* (PlayerOption) 13mil, likely opt-out.

Gasol- 1 + 1 PO

Butler- 1 + 1 PO (doubt it)

Barnes- 1 + 1 PO 25mil (likely opt-in?)

Dragic- 1 + 1 PO 19mil.

Don't see them investing big in another big K-Love/Millsap.


Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130143 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 12:43 pm to
He's not going to tell us more, and I think since he has already said it is highly unlikely to even happen, there's probably not a lot of purpose in continuing to try and decipher it.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
178840 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 12:45 pm to
pretty sure its kawhi. the whole 2 yr thing was to throw us off.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 12:46 pm to
Plus Simmons was really the only potential target on a team that would be ready to throw in the towel before the season starts and Crewz ruled him out. I would assume the negotiations they're doing now are about laying the ground work for potential deals later in the season and we'll see them go to Plan B once the money dries up and add some value FAs.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130143 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 12:53 pm to
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I would assume the negotiations they're doing now are about laying the ground work for potential deals later in the season


Yeah agreed.

I think we add Boogie, Rondo, and a value 4th Big, and that's pretty much it. MAYBE an Ennis type or a guy similar to Miller as a reclamation project.
Posted by Pelefraan 1
Member since Jan 2018
6706 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 1:00 pm to
What money do we have to use on free agents other than the MLE?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 1:07 pm to
Oleh from TBW laid out how the rest of the offseason could go:

quote:

Oleh Kosel @OlehKosel 26 minutes ago

Unless they can swing a trade during free agency, Pelicans hard-capping themselves seems likely IMO. One scenario:

DeMarcus Cousins: $20,000,000 mil
Rajon Rondo: $6,000,000 mil (he + Payton fill entire non-taxpayer MLE)
BAE -- $3,551,100 (max) -- Jeff Ennis?

Total: $128,321,674


I can't see them hard capping themselves like that though. The Apron (hard cap) is projected to be a little over $129 million. He's assuming $20 million for Cousins but if he makes any of his incentives that'd push you over the hard cap, which when you're hard capped you're not allowed to do, so it would force you to dump salary before the end of the year.

I think they stick to an offer of 2/$8 for Rondo and sign one more non minimum FA with the $2.9 million remaining from the Taxpayer MLE.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130143 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 1:20 pm to
I can't see them hardcapping themselves either.
Posted by Pelefraan 1
Member since Jan 2018
6706 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 1:34 pm to
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I can't see them hardcapping themselves either.


Which means leaving only the full MLE to use while staying under the apron and not hard capping ourselves. Is that right? Then only being able to add minimum guys to fill the roster.

From what I can tell, Cousins contract will dictate whether we're hard capped or not
This post was edited on 7/2/18 at 1:36 pm
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 1:42 pm to
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Which means leaving only the full MLE


Using the full MLE does hard cap you by definition. While it sounds like they are keeping all options open because "Cousins contract will dictate whether we're hard capped or not". I'd expect Cousins back with no market for him meaning the team will need to avoid hard capping themselves by using the Full MLE or BAE. Practically speaking they only have about $2.9 million left of the Taxpayer MLE after using $2.7 million of it on Payton. They also have the 20% raise they can give Rondo/Clark with Non Bird Rights.

This post was edited on 7/2/18 at 1:44 pm
Posted by Pelefraan 1
Member since Jan 2018
6706 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 1:47 pm to
dbl
This post was edited on 7/2/18 at 1:51 pm
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