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re: Fischer: Pels 8th pick a likely trade target, either back or for a vet.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 11:28 pm to Macintosh504
Posted on 5/20/22 at 11:28 pm to Macintosh504
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Unlike guys like Chet who thinks he’s going to be the best player in the NBA from day 1.
If we drafted him somehow, people would love this.
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Posted on 5/21/22 at 6:26 am to TackySweater
Kira was starting to play at a high level before the injury…
Posted on 5/21/22 at 6:30 am to Soggymoss
Agreed. Kira had started to unlock something right before he got hurt.
That doesn’t mean he will pan out, but he had started to figure some things out.
That doesn’t mean he will pan out, but he had started to figure some things out.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 9:28 am to Fun Bunch
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There’s also an almost 1 million dollar difference per year salary wise between 8 and 12. That could be important to a team like NOLA where future salary is going to be very important. If you don’t see a big difference between 8 and 14th guys, and you can also maybe dump salary and pick up future assets, it is certainly in play.
If rookie money makes a difference, it seems like trading for any decent vet contributor or starter would push the cap into that luxury tax penalty, right?
I woud figure they would prefer drafting a young & cheap future starter with this pick. Plus, it could be a while before they pick this low again.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 10:20 am to LSUFreek
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If rookie money makes a difference, it seems like trading for any decent vet contributor or starter would push the cap into that luxury tax penalty, right?
Yes, people trying to switch Graham for a vet shooter like Huerter are thinking about this season only. That's not workable the following year unless Huerter is a missing piece that makes you a contender and gets you comfortable going into the tax.
I personally think they need to develop rookies and try avoiding the tax until they have to pay Herb. It shouldn't slow the timeline down much assuming Herb/Jose/Trey continue to develop, and makes keeping the core together much more sustainable once Zion/BI are in their primes. If you start the tax clock next year, you'll be in the very punitive repeater tax when they are just hitting their championship stride.
This post was edited on 5/21/22 at 10:21 am
Posted on 5/21/22 at 10:27 am to TigerinATL
Exactly. Unless CJ is taking a big discount on his next deal, this team will be continuing to dance around the tax line for as long as this core is together. Cost controlled talent is going to be key.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 10:44 am to LesGeaux45
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Exactly. Unless CJ is taking a big discount on his next deal, this team will be continuing to dance around the tax line for as long as this core is together. Cost controlled talent is going to be key.
Which is why something like
8 + Graham + temple for 12 + future 1 + kenrich Williams + filler
Could be huge
Posted on 5/21/22 at 12:48 pm to TigerinATL
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I personally think they need to develop rookies and try avoiding the tax until they have to pay Herb. It shouldn't slow the timeline down much assuming Herb/Jose/Trey continue to develop, and makes keeping the core together much more sustainable once Zion/BI are in their primes. If you start the tax clock next year, you'll be in the very punitive repeater tax when they are just hitting their championship stride.
I don't see how we can keep the core together, give Zion his extension, and stay out of the tax.
I think that this is our last season under the tax.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 1:17 pm to TackySweater
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Wtf have you seen from him to make you think this? I don’t think Kira will Amount to anything In the nba. He just doesn’t have it. The faster we can all accept that and move on, the faster we get better.
Sorry I wasn’t aware I was in the presence of such a great evaluator of talent. Proceed, don’t mind me.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 4:49 pm to htran90
CJs 30MM changed the math.
someone has to go before their 2nd contract
it won’t be zion
it won’t be herb
it won’t be Murphy (unless something happens)
it will be either Lewis or Hayes
one of them has to go
someone has to go before their 2nd contract
it won’t be zion
it won’t be herb
it won’t be Murphy (unless something happens)
it will be either Lewis or Hayes
one of them has to go
Posted on 5/21/22 at 8:23 pm to cgrand
I would say Kira is the odd man out of the two for right now.
Both may end up on the way out if Jax can’t get his head out of his arse.
Both may end up on the way out if Jax can’t get his head out of his arse.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 9:09 pm to teke184
If we don't trade him now, then Jax has to outperform Nance this season or he's gone by the trade deadline.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:20 pm to GOP_Tiger
Both Kira and Hayes have a lot to prove this year. I’d say Hayes is currently more valuable with a need at backup C.
Graham, Kira, and Temple aren’t needed if the #8 pick hits. That’s 20 mil we could use somewhere else. The future player we trade to free up cap space is Val. That’s IF Zion is healthy and putting the league on notice.
So if things actually go as planned that’s about 34 mil to figure out our core and pay the young guys. That’s the dumbed down plan with a lot of ifs.
Graham, Kira, and Temple aren’t needed if the #8 pick hits. That’s 20 mil we could use somewhere else. The future player we trade to free up cap space is Val. That’s IF Zion is healthy and putting the league on notice.
So if things actually go as planned that’s about 34 mil to figure out our core and pay the young guys. That’s the dumbed down plan with a lot of ifs.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:33 pm to cgrand
It’s really not complicated either Zion shows up or he doesn’t. If he shows up we can create space with Val, grab a C, and assume Herb, Trey, Hayes, Nance fill the gaps. If he doesn’t show up we trade Zion and maybe Val too. Hayes also either shows up or he doesn’t. Our future cap relies on Hayes, Zion, and Val as of now.
This post was edited on 5/21/22 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:34 pm to Dantheman504
Kira 21yr 45d
Tari Eason 21y 10d
Ochai 22y 40d
Keegan Murray 21y 275d
Just for some reference
Tari Eason 21y 10d
Ochai 22y 40d
Keegan Murray 21y 275d
Just for some reference
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