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re: Duncan & Fletcher would be surprised if Gentry and staff do not get 1 more year
Posted on 4/16/19 at 3:15 pm to eyeran
Posted on 4/16/19 at 3:15 pm to eyeran
Stats dont tell the whole story, Okafor played alot better than his rookie year
Kenrich averaged 6 PPG, but as I said, he progressively got better as the season went, you know, strides in his development like I said??
Payton was playing out of his mind after he gained his confidence back from the finger injury, the stats he was putting up was Westbrookish, so yes that's borderline all star performance...
Kenrich averaged 6 PPG, but as I said, he progressively got better as the season went, you know, strides in his development like I said??
Payton was playing out of his mind after he gained his confidence back from the finger injury, the stats he was putting up was Westbrookish, so yes that's borderline all star performance...
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 3:18 pm to Soggymoss
quote:Okafor and Kenrich were just playing more and getting more opportunities due to a lesser focus on winning. Not sure we can draw a conclusion on how they would play on a competitive team.
Stats dont tell the whole story, Okafor played alot better than his rookie year
Kenrich averaged 6 PPG, but as I said, he progressively got better as the season went, you know, strides in his development like I said??
Payton was playing out of his mind after he gained his confidence back from the finger injury, the stats he was putting up was Westbrookish, so yes that's borderline all star performance...
Posted on 4/16/19 at 3:26 pm to Soggymoss
Hard to take stock in any of those guys once the AD stuff went down. A lot of empty stats when our offense turns into a glorified pick up game
That trio all had carrots dangling in front of them, something to play for. When okafor gets on the floor he’s all about getting him numbers. Not to say he played bad but it’s apparent he’s out to boost his stock
That trio all had carrots dangling in front of them, something to play for. When okafor gets on the floor he’s all about getting him numbers. Not to say he played bad but it’s apparent he’s out to boost his stock
Posted on 4/16/19 at 3:59 pm to Crewz
Do you know if Finch and Erman are still under contract?
Posted on 4/16/19 at 4:42 pm to Aussie_Pelican
I believe it's been mentioned before by some of the bloggers or beat writers that the assistants got extensions when Gentry did. So if Gentry has another year on his deal so do the assistants.
This post was edited on 4/16/19 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 4/16/19 at 4:58 pm to TigerinATL
quote:I'd be fine with keeping Gentry if Griffin assessed the situation and decided he's the best guy for the job, going forward. I'm talking next year and beyond.
I get it, people have been wanting Gentry gone with reason since the moment he got hired. But it doesn't look like that part of the process is going to happen immediately. We finally have a GM who's seat isn't hot, so he's going to do what he wants to do how he wants to do it.
Its the idea of wasting a year with a lame duck coach thats absurd to me. We're gonna bring a guy back when we KNOW we need to upgrade the position?
Thats clown shite. Its how we ended up with Head Coach Jeff Bower, when he didn't fire Byron Scott like he should have, the previous offseason.
There's literally nothing stopping us from doing a full on coaching search right now if we wanted. We're still a month away from even getting to the lottery. 2 months from the draft. 2.5 months from free agency.
People are acting like we'd be rushing the process to find a coach right now, when we're months from needing to have someone in place.
Posted on 4/16/19 at 5:10 pm to eyeran
Until we know who is even on the roster or who we are drafting, what is the fricking point of firing Gentry?
Gentry is not the permanent answer. At the same time, I don’t see us getting high quality candidates right now.
We get Zion, Ja, Tatum, whoever? THEN we can look for a coach if there is a good one available. Because no coach worth a shite is going to walk in here and just wait to see what happens. Coaches who do that end up getting fired because the job isn’t what they signed up for.
Gentry is not the permanent answer. At the same time, I don’t see us getting high quality candidates right now.
We get Zion, Ja, Tatum, whoever? THEN we can look for a coach if there is a good one available. Because no coach worth a shite is going to walk in here and just wait to see what happens. Coaches who do that end up getting fired because the job isn’t what they signed up for.
Posted on 4/16/19 at 5:41 pm to teke184
quote:Because he's a bad coach. And he shouldn't be the coach, regardless of who's on the roster.
Until we know who is even on the roster or who we are drafting, what is the fricking point of firing Gentry?
quote:You can keep saying this, but it won't make it true. Quality coaches are ALWAYS waiting to get hired.
Gentry is not the permanent answer. At the same time, I don’t see us getting high quality candidates right now.
Again, all the excuses people are making for not hiring a better coach, or quality coaches not wanting to come here, are all the same excuses Griffin could have had for not taking this job.
You wait until after the lottery, when you have a better idea of what the AD trade will look like, then make your hire at that time. Griffin and the new HC can both collaborate during the process. Or trade AD and make a hire based on the type of roster you've put together.
Griffin hired David Blatt on June 20. There's plenty of time to go through this process. There are no excuses for Gentry coming back, man.
Posted on 4/16/19 at 6:20 pm to eyeran
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Because he's a bad coach. And he shouldn't be the coach, regardless of who's on the roster.
If they fire Gentry I won't be upset at all, I just don't think coaches matter that much unless you have a really good one.
I'm not even worried about lax Uncle Al if we go young with Zion or Morant. Monty gave AD 3 good years of discipline and structure and even tried to build up leadership habits by having him go to Summer League a do some mentor, rah rah bullshite with the young guys. A lot of good that did in turning AD into a leader.
This post was edited on 4/16/19 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 4/16/19 at 6:22 pm to BallHawk
Lol. Joerger is much better than Gentry. He coached at two franchises that let coaches go more often than any others.
Posted on 4/16/19 at 6:25 pm to ElRoos
Joerger is known to be difficult to work with so no thanks
Posted on 4/16/19 at 6:56 pm to Chad504boy
quote:
Duncan & Fletcher would be surprised if Gentry and staff do not get 1 more year
Thats disappointing. The culture of Pelicans basketball needs to change asap. Gentry promotes excuses, not a win-at-all-cost culture.
Posted on 4/16/19 at 7:13 pm to Spudly
quote:
So, let's just ignore last year's Portland sweep?
So let’s just ignore a 16 year Head Coaching career?
Posted on 4/16/19 at 7:16 pm to Chad504boy
Im not really against it tbh, but i dont see how Gentry will be able to turn it around next year unless we score with the lottery and draft and get awesome return for AD.
Posted on 4/16/19 at 7:23 pm to TigerinATL
quote:So because Monty didn't turn AD into a leader, we should not care who the coach is?
If they fire Gentry I won't be upset at all, I just don't think coaches matter that much unless you have a really good one.
I'm not even worried about lax Uncle Al if we go young with Zion or Morant. Monty gave AD 3 good years of discipline and structure and even tried to build up leadership habits by having him go to Summer League a do some mentor, rah rah bull shite with the young guys. A lot of good that did in turning AD into a leader.
I would assume Griffin has a plan. Based on his experience, he should make the right call. If that turns out to be Gentry, hopefully it works out.
This post was edited on 4/16/19 at 7:29 pm
Posted on 4/16/19 at 7:24 pm to Chad504boy
Hire Will Wade.
Posted on 4/16/19 at 7:26 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
The culture of Pelicans basketball needs to change asap
weren't Duncan and Fletch et al hinting that Ferry was the likely new GM?
the braintrust just gave the keys of the franchise to, by many accounts, the best available basketball executive.
not many have been harsher on ownership than I. why don't we let things breathe some before torching the organization again?
Posted on 4/16/19 at 8:43 pm to NOSHAU
quote:
So because Monty didn't turn AD into a leader, we should not care who the coach is?
I'm saying another year of Gentry isn't going to ruin the new foundation they are trying to build.
Griffin acquiring the right players >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replacing Gentry now
Plus as I've said before I'm high on Finch so I don't feel like the Pels are missing out if they stand pat as long as they keep Finch.
Posted on 4/16/19 at 8:51 pm to Lester Earl
One more tank year could go a long ways for 2020 draft
Posted on 4/16/19 at 10:39 pm to TigerinATL
quote:I agree on Finch. I hope he sticks around and does not see Gentry staying as a lame duck situation.
Plus as I've said before I'm high on Finch so I don't feel like the Pels are missing out if they stand pat as long as they keep Finch.
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