re: David Griffin loves Brandon Ingram; 'several' within Pelicans loved Lakers' original offer

I find it more that people just prefer Tatum

Ball is probably a lot more contentious than Ingram is

LE, you think John Collins is an under the radar asset in this AD situation?

Les, does Zo missing 65 games the first 2 years not worry you a little?


Defensively Jrue and Lonzo is the best guard tandem in the league, don't see any logical person that could deny this. Throw in Zion and Ingram and you have 4 capable defenders. Does the identity just shift to being a defensive team? Maybe so, because spacing is going to be an issue. Lonzo as a prospect is appealing, but there are some legit red flags here. Him missing nearly half of his games is scary af.

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include both SGA and Shamet.

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Don't think Shamet can be traded in combination with other players.

I thought he was all in on the Nets package ?

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Don't think Shamet can be traded in combination with other players.

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He can by July 1 (which is when a trade is finalized).

What particularly made MM change his tune on the lakers deal? I'm getting worried that it's because he heard that's the favorite so he's trying to spin it like it's great

Can someone explain what it is they dont like about the Lakers package. I have thought from the beginning it was really good. If they get offered Ingram, Ball, Hart, 4th pick and next years lakers pick you take that and run. That team will be really good in 2-3 years with tons of length and two way players.

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What particularly made MM change his tune on the lakers deal?

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Could be the fact that they have the 4th pick in the draft, instead of the 12th.

I didn't need Crewz, or some Laker fan to change my tune on a Lakers trade. It is the best trade if we are going after the highest potential return.
Jayson Tatum isn't a superstar. The #4 or #6 pick, albeit a small chance, about 10% going off the last 10 years, could end up being a superstar. No one else is really offering that other than the Knicks with the #3 pick.

The Celtics offer is for known players and has a very high floor. It is a very safe trade with a great return.
The Knicks and Lakers offers have a lower floor, but higher ceilings. THe knicks is a very high risk trade, Lakers slightly lower risk.
I also think the more people have looked into Ingram, and not just scoffed at his "i am high all the time" look and the Laker stigma, you realize he's improved each year and looks like a good starter in the league. I can see him being a guy that really leads our 2nd team, even though he's a starter. You take him out first and get him back in to play with your backups and handle the burden of scoring and creating for others. We should be looking for nothign but shooters in our role players.

Ingram has two issues, minimum.

The first of which is fear of injury, rightly or wrongly, due to the DVT.

The second is that he needs to get paid within one season, meaning a potential Eric Gordon redux to where we feel required to keep him regardless of questions about his health or production.