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re: David Griffin loves Brandon Ingram; 'several' within Pelicans loved Lakers' original offer

Posted on 6/5/19 at 11:38 am to
Posted by TeachMeHowTaDante
DC
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 11:38 am to
Why would the Pels allow him to leave for nothing in that scenario?

Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34930 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 11:39 am to
One shot at a title with Zion, AD, and Jrue??


I’m just spitballing here. My hypothetical was just that, a hypothetical
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13881 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:19 pm to
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I love how McNamara was trashing Ingram 3 months ago & now he is GDCK

He has taken a complete 180. Not long ago, he called anyone dumb who thought that AD would end up anywhere but Boston or NY (and only NY if they pulled the #1 pick). He did not like Ingram before and initially loved Tatum (now acts as if Tatum is a fringe player). He also said that many here did not understand that you cannot trade a dollar for 4 quarters and now he is in love with a Nets deal that he admits is like trading a dollar for several dimes. He has spent years trying to convince everyone that if you did not have a top 5 pick in the draft, the pick was useless and yet now he is saying he would prefer multiple picks in the 17-40 range rather than the #3 pick. Awfully strange.
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 1:22 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131355 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:23 pm to
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He has taken a complete 180. Not long ago, he called anyone dumb who thought that AD would end up anywhere but Boston or NY (and only NY if they pulled the #1 pick). He did not like Ingram before and initially loved Tatum (now acts as if Tatum is a fringe player). He also said that many here did not understand that you cannot trade a dollar for 4 quarters and now he is in love with a Nets deal that he admits is like trading a dollar for several dimes. He has spent years trying to convince everyone that if you did not have a top 5 pick in the draft, the pick was useless and yet now he is saying he would prefer multiple picks in the 17-40 range rather than the #3 pick. Awfully strange.




I have noticed this as well. I like his inside information but his basketball takes are inconsistent at best.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179664 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:24 pm to
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he is saying he would prefer multiple picks in the 17-40 range rather than the #3 pick. Awfully strange.


its not like we have had much time to build a front office that is reliable when it comes to making such picks neither. Maybe after a full year's worth of staffing and organizing but in 45 days?
Posted by Dogstar
Member since Jun 2019
372 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:41 pm to
I get why lakers players get so much hate, but if you watch the tape, Ingram is showing tons of potential, at least if not more than Tatum tbh. The guy was averaging over 27 points the last couple weeks before the injury. The injury honestly is getting overblown by fans who don’t like the deal. I think he has a decent change to be a 25+ pt Durant-lite type player in a few years. He’s worth the risk for sure.

Not only that, but Ball is pretty much the perfect fit for rookie Zion. If you watch a good game for Ball, say the December 17th game vs Sacramento you will see all the amazing positives he brings. Him and Zion would be the basis of possibly the best fast break team in basketball.

Overall, I think peli fans are seriously underrating the lakers deal. There’s enough in the deal to get Ingram, Ball and bring in another great fit via trade like Myles Turner. It will be hard to beat that deal and I’m not sure Ainge has the guts to put that much on the table.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13881 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:57 pm to
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I get why lakers players get so much hate, but if you watch the tape, Ingram is showing tons of potential, at least if not more than Tatum tbh. The guy was averaging over 27 points the last couple weeks before the injury. The injury honestly is getting overblown by fans who don’t like the deal. I think he has a decent change to be a 25+ pt Durant-lite type player in a few years. He’s worth the risk for sure.

Not only that, but Ball is pretty much the perfect fit for rookie Zion. If you watch a good game for Ball, say the December 17th game vs Sacramento you will see all the amazing positives he brings. Him and Zion would be the basis of possibly the best fast break team in basketball.

Overall, I think peli fans are seriously underrating the lakers deal. There’s enough in the deal to get Ingram, Ball and bring in another great fit via trade like Myles Turner. It will be hard to beat that deal and I’m not sure Ainge has the guts to put that much on the table.
Overblown? One more blood clot and his career is likely over. Not sure how that is not a huge issue. He did look great for a couple of weeks. However, that was at the end of the season against bad teams (including Pelicans twice, Memphis and Phoenix). He was clearly being showcased and he was playing nearly 40 minutes a game. He is a good player, but I would put him below Tatum even without the clot issue, but well below because of that issue.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131355 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:00 pm to
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I get why lakers players get so much hate, but if you watch the tape, Ingram is showing tons of potential, at least if not more than Tatum tbh. The guy was averaging over 27 points the last couple weeks before the injury. The injury honestly is getting overblown by fans who don’t like the deal. I think he has a decent change to be a 25+ pt Durant-lite type player in a few years. He’s worth the risk for sure.

Not only that, but Ball is pretty much the perfect fit for rookie Zion. If you watch a good game for Ball, say the December 17th game vs Sacramento you will see all the amazing positives he brings. Him and Zion would be the basis of possibly the best fast break team in basketball.

Overall, I think peli fans are seriously underrating the lakers deal. There’s enough in the deal to get Ingram, Ball and bring in another great fit via trade like Myles Turner. It will be hard to beat that deal and I’m not sure Ainge has the guts to put that much on the table.




lol

Is this board getting enough traction to where Lakers fans are registering to sell us on their...assets?

Good times.
Posted by Dogstar
Member since Jun 2019
372 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:09 pm to
Rather have Ball, than any prospect in this draft outside of the top 3..
Posted by Vegas Buffet
The Sierra
Member since Feb 2019
169 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:10 pm to
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Overblown? One more blood clot and his career is likely over. Not sure how that is not a huge issue. He did look great for a couple of weeks. However, that was at the end of the season against bad teams (including Pelicans twice, Memphis and Phoenix). He was clearly being showcased and he was playing nearly 40 minutes a game. He is a good player, but I would put him below Tatum even without the clot issue, but well below because of that issue.


Not only were they bad teams, they lost to them.

Yet Tatum winning as many playoff games this year as AD has in his entire career before losing to the team with the best defense and best record is a huge negative somehow lol.

This was of course following his rookie season, where Tatum played a lead role in getting Boston within a game of the Finals as a 20yo, while Ingram won 35 games and missed the playoffs.

As a Celts fan, totally get it if we get beat out by a dark horse, or maaaybe even the Knicks. Nothing but LOLs if they trade AD to LAL, LAC, or BKN, though.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179664 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:12 pm to
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Rather have Ball, than any prospect in this draft outside of the top 3..

Posted by Dogstar
Member since Jun 2019
372 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:23 pm to
Ball is not ball dominate whatsoever. Sounds like you haven’t watched much of him. He moves the ball as fast as possible. Perfect running mate for Zion. One of the best fast break passers in the league. Almost every time he touches the ball he makes a quick and positive read against the defense and puts pressure on them with his amazing passing.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131355 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:32 pm to
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Ball is not ball dominate whatsoever.


That actually makes him worse, because he is actually completely useless without the ball. Its 4 on 5.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291496 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:41 pm to
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That actually makes him worse, because he is actually completely useless without the ball. Its 4 on 5.



Do you watch the Warriors at all? Is Draymod Green worthless when he's moving the ball or any of the other selfless guys that play in the best offense in history?

Wtf is this clown shite
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19604 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:44 pm to
I don't want Lavar Ball anywhere near Zion. If I trade for Lonzo, it is with a stipulation that his Dad is not allowed access to anything related to the team.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131355 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:45 pm to
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Do you watch the Warriors at all? Is Draymod Green worthless when he's moving the ball or any of the other selfless guys that play in the best offense in history?

Wtf is this clown shite


You're comparing Draymond Green to Lonzo Ball?

Please be specific with your comparison.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291496 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:50 pm to
He’s great at moving the ball as are most guys on that team, how is that a worthless trait?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131355 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:54 pm to
Draymond Green is.

I have never, ever heard that about Lonzo in the NBA nor have I seen that.

I'm sure you've watched a lot of film though, so I'll defer to you.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291496 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 3:01 pm to
You could have just told the other guy that bunchie. Or said that you didn’t think Lonzo was good at that instead of portraying that the act itself is worthless trait
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131355 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 3:02 pm to
I think Lonzo is very good at certain things. I don't think he works for us.
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