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re: Widow’s Bay (AppleTV) Discussion *Renewed for S2, all S1 episodes now streaming*
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:28 pm to Soul Gleaux
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:28 pm to Soul Gleaux
so even if Evan and Ruth were killed, there is still some entity on the island that we dont know about, right? I just dont know how that ends.
Or does it with no Warren relative
Or does it with no Warren relative
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:50 pm to dallastiger55
My understanding is the entity was on the island before it was settled. Warren made a deal with it to sacrifice people to lure it into hibernation so they could remain there and not be subjected to all the supernatural occurrences. If Ruth and Evan die, anybody born on the island could leave, but I don’t think the entity would accept sacrifices and everybody on the island would be in constant danger of supernatural events. They will have to find a way to defeat it to save the residents and end the curse without the death of Evan.
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:54 pm to Esquire
Btw all... I'm starting this one. 
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:33 pm to MississippiLebowski
quote:
I wonder if all deaths on the island count or if they have to be sacrificed in that dungeon. There was other deaths this season that could count towards the bell tolls. The shaman got sucked into the sky and multiple people were killed by the boogeyman.
I don't think it does (that was my thought at first).
There were 9 bell tolls at the beginning of Episode 2.
In the finale, after Kenny was taken in the creepy chair dungeon, the bell tolled 8 times.
It seems like any death doesn't suffice. Otherwise deaths like the Father who hung himself or the Shaman sucked up into the water spout would count. It has to be someone that is actually sacrificed to whatever the frick that entity is in the island's basement.
ETA: Also appreciate the nod to King's IT with it mentioning the fear makes the sacrifices taste better.
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 6:35 pm
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:51 pm to BluegrassBelle
I don't think anyone has mentioned yet:
Ruth immediately understood the Trolley Problem and immediately knew what her answer was. She was sharp as a tack and her morality was well thought out. I loved that.
Ruth immediately understood the Trolley Problem and immediately knew what her answer was. She was sharp as a tack and her morality was well thought out. I loved that.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:05 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
quote:I just hate that her old boyfriend was a bit by an animal and became that animal.
Ruth immediately understood the Trolley Problem and immediately knew what her answer was. She was sharp as a tack and her morality was well thought out. I loved that.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:06 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
So what is the timeframe they have to get the 9 bodies?
Why did the storm stop after they only gave one sacrifice and not all nine?
Why did the storm stop after they only gave one sacrifice and not all nine?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:21 pm to dallastiger55
quote:
Why did the storm stop after they only gave one sacrifice and not all nine?
I would assume each death appeases it for a temporary amount of time, but all the deaths asked for by the bell toll cause it to go to sleep for a much longer period. I think that is what is implied.
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 8:24 pm
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:32 pm to Esquire
quote:
If Ruth and Evan die, anybody born on the island could leave, but I don’t think the entity would accept sacrifices and everybody on the island would be in constant danger of supernatural events.
Warren says in episode 6 that nothing would grow or live there until he made the covenant. I assume society would crumble, probably quickly and violently, if Evan were to die.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:06 pm to Jay Are
Who steeps tea for 27 minutes.

Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:26 pm to Salmon
quote:
The island has some type of entity that is controlling it and Warren made a deal with it to keep it happy. The deal is the sacrifices.
So the sacrifices are temporary, killing Evan is (maybe) permanent?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:29 pm to dallastiger55
quote:
Why did the storm stop after they only gave one sacrifice and not all nine?
I took that in a different way. Setting the 9 toll theory aside for a second, which hasn’t been confirmed, I took the 8 tolls as it needs 8 bodies so I started counting:
- reverend
- water spout shaman
- EMT
- EMT
- gas station guy
- maintenance guy in basement
- guy on boat in first ep?
- ?
Couldn’t remember if it was both EMTs and who am I missing? Do we count the boogeyman?
IDK it’s a theory I guess.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 5:49 am to Handsome Pete
quote:I think she was comforted in that loss by the fact that apparently everyone she ever knew, male and female, 'made a pass'.
I just hate that her old boyfriend was a bit by an animal and became that animal.
When she was looking at the picture of the priest and the nun and said they both made a pass, I lol'd.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 6:32 am to coolpapaboze
I was able to watch the finale last night.
The Ruth/Tom visit at her house was a little stressful. It was great though. There was so many questions Tom should've been asking as they looked thru pics. Especially the, "I loved him, but he got bit by an animal and became that animal".......WTH did you just say?
I knew there was a personal twist coming for Tom when she said she had gotten pregnant.
I don't know what to make about Ruth. It seems she has some kind of immortality. The biggest hint with her sprinting up the stairs and then the gunshot.
As far as the island, the 9 bell tolls are the number of sacrifices. It tolled 9 in ep 2 and 8 after the poor guy got trapped in tunnel with the chair.
So you have the whole entity in the island issue, but what was the Boogeyman and the "Water Lady" going after Tom. Why were they after specific people?
Anywho....lots of things unanswered which makes for more potential seasons and creativity in the writing. Hopefully doesn't go off the rails like Lost did.
The Ruth/Tom visit at her house was a little stressful. It was great though. There was so many questions Tom should've been asking as they looked thru pics. Especially the, "I loved him, but he got bit by an animal and became that animal".......WTH did you just say?
I knew there was a personal twist coming for Tom when she said she had gotten pregnant.
I don't know what to make about Ruth. It seems she has some kind of immortality. The biggest hint with her sprinting up the stairs and then the gunshot.
As far as the island, the 9 bell tolls are the number of sacrifices. It tolled 9 in ep 2 and 8 after the poor guy got trapped in tunnel with the chair.
So you have the whole entity in the island issue, but what was the Boogeyman and the "Water Lady" going after Tom. Why were they after specific people?
Anywho....lots of things unanswered which makes for more potential seasons and creativity in the writing. Hopefully doesn't go off the rails like Lost did.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 7:13 am to jp4lsu
What about the other people that died.
And how in that small of a town did nobody know the cops wife was pregnant? Not to mention 9 months pregnant
And how in that small of a town did nobody know the cops wife was pregnant? Not to mention 9 months pregnant
Posted on 6/18/26 at 7:53 am to dallastiger55
dallastiger55, the cops wife is 7 weeks early so really just 7 months....but yes she looks big for sure and how do you hide that.
The timing of things was off on the finale too.....Tom had been at Ruths house for maybe an hour. 30 min to brew tea but yet the people were already restless in the shelter after an hour? Really?
How has nobody watched the films in the closet. That would've been around 70's when those were made, so Wyck's high school days when his friend was pulled under.
The timing of things was off on the finale too.....Tom had been at Ruths house for maybe an hour. 30 min to brew tea but yet the people were already restless in the shelter after an hour? Really?
How has nobody watched the films in the closet. That would've been around 70's when those were made, so Wyck's high school days when his friend was pulled under.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 7:56 am to dallastiger55
I forgot to mention. There seems to be 2 distinct sections of this season.
1st half was super creepy with the scary Inn episode and had some jump scare type scenes. The 2nd half has been more mystery, intrigue and not scary really.
1st half was super creepy with the scary Inn episode and had some jump scare type scenes. The 2nd half has been more mystery, intrigue and not scary really.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 8:08 am to dallastiger55
quote:
What about the other people that died.
I think it has to be in the dungeon
Posted on 6/18/26 at 8:27 am to BluegrassBelle
Finally got around to watching this last night, what a ride!!!
The whole Ruth visit was writing gold! She wasn't the doddering bumbler with possible early onset dementia we met earlier, she was spry, sharp and about as nice and kind a person has there could be. They really cranked up the angst of Tom's choice to comedic levels, but the dryness of it was a good balance to the constant new discoveries about how sweet and wonderful a person he is planning to murder.
Just like many of us guessed, she had a kid in secret and gave her up. That child ended up being Tom's wife, thus his son is the last blood relative of Richard Warren. That scene where Tom changes his mind was giving you just the right feels when the gun goes off to startled the frick out of you.
The basement videos and Dale's reaction (right at the WORST time
) were great. The whole finding the ladder and going into the caves story was interesting. I kept expecting the chair to capture one of the kids if they sat in it long enough.
Speaking of the videos, when did they stop? How is it that the remaining residents don't know about the sacrifices? Were they kept ultra secretive or is there some other thing at play which caused them to forget?
The bell tolled 9 times earlier, when only the preacher knew what it meant. The guy dies in the cave, now it tolls 8 times meaning the island spirit demands 8 more sacrifices.
So does time move any between the end of S1 and the beginning of S2 or does Dale spill the beans in the intervening time and the main characters all watch the videos?
The whole Ruth visit was writing gold! She wasn't the doddering bumbler with possible early onset dementia we met earlier, she was spry, sharp and about as nice and kind a person has there could be. They really cranked up the angst of Tom's choice to comedic levels, but the dryness of it was a good balance to the constant new discoveries about how sweet and wonderful a person he is planning to murder.
Just like many of us guessed, she had a kid in secret and gave her up. That child ended up being Tom's wife, thus his son is the last blood relative of Richard Warren. That scene where Tom changes his mind was giving you just the right feels when the gun goes off to startled the frick out of you.
The basement videos and Dale's reaction (right at the WORST time
Speaking of the videos, when did they stop? How is it that the remaining residents don't know about the sacrifices? Were they kept ultra secretive or is there some other thing at play which caused them to forget?
The bell tolled 9 times earlier, when only the preacher knew what it meant. The guy dies in the cave, now it tolls 8 times meaning the island spirit demands 8 more sacrifices.
So does time move any between the end of S1 and the beginning of S2 or does Dale spill the beans in the intervening time and the main characters all watch the videos?
Posted on 6/18/26 at 8:35 am to Bard
quote:
"You mean back in '42, when we tried to build one and all the workers disappeared?"
quote:
“No, wait, what?”
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