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re: why does hollywood still insist rifles & pistols have unlimited ammo?

Posted on 4/16/21 at 12:04 pm to
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 4/16/21 at 12:04 pm to
There’s only 90-120 minutes in a typical movie to tell a story, and no one wants to watch a guy reload his gun for 60 of those minutes
Posted by Animal
Member since Dec 2017
4341 posts
Posted on 4/16/21 at 12:07 pm to
I like how they make 100 yard head shots with a pistol....
Posted by JW
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 4/16/21 at 12:11 pm to
I hate when "Hollywood" pits a giant Ape vs a giant lizard to fight for world dominance on top of ships in the middle of the ocean.



Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
17607 posts
Posted on 4/16/21 at 12:19 pm to
Exactly. It’s done for entertainment value. You know how boring courtroom dramas would be if they didn’t spice it up a bit?

Not everything that happens in a story has to be expressed on screen for the viewer to see
Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
9714 posts
Posted on 4/16/21 at 12:23 pm to
I have a related pet peeve. Repeated cocking of a pistol in a dialogue scene. This happened in this week’s episode of Falcon and the Winter Soldier. Bucky sneaks up on Zemo and cocks his pistol three times in 30 seconds.

It always goes something like this:

Bad guy: I heard you were looking for me.

(Good guy cocks gun)

Good guy: Yeah. You could say that.

Bad guy: I’m never going to tell you where she is.

Good guy: We’ll see about that (cocks gun).

Bad guy: You don’t have the guts to pull that trigger.

Good guy: (cocks gun) you think I’m playing around?

(Ugh.....)
Posted by Split2874
Mandeville
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:06 pm to
Or pumping a shot gun.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
28560 posts
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

There only been one movie where the director realized that the actual sound of gunfire is better than stock sound effects:



Mann is a true genius director. The remake of 3:10 to Yuma was pretty damn accurate with it's gunfire sounds, especially the shotguns. Maybe I am misremembering, since it has been quite some time since I have seen it, but I remember thinking how real and natural it sounded.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
32400 posts
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:11 pm to
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And one shot instant kills no matter where the person gets hit on their body.



unless you're the protagonist.

i love the movie, but tears of the sun was one where those dudes each had 10 bulletholes and were still operational.
This post was edited on 4/16/21 at 1:25 pm
Posted by jfw3535
South of Bunkie
Member since Mar 2008
5574 posts
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:18 pm to
In other breaking news - legal cases do not start, go to trial and have a verdict in the span of a week.
Posted by VeniVidiVici
Gaul
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/16/21 at 3:01 pm to
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The Matrix gets around the issue by having Neo and Trinity load up with a dozen or so guns so they don’t have to reload.

As did the Salamanca brothers in Better Call Saul
Posted by chinese58
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Member since Jun 2004
33819 posts
Posted on 4/16/21 at 3:02 pm to
...or reload!

While Mac empties Blaine's M134 Minigun in Predator on YouTube some of the other guys change out their mags.

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104094 posts
Posted on 4/16/21 at 3:12 pm to
Hackers had a mix of issues.

Part of it was that the reality of the situation wouldn’t have been good entertainment.

Part of it was that the “experts” hired by the film told them a bunch of stuff that was wrong for shits and giggles.



That being said, they did get some stuff right such as the social engineering to get access to the TV station, using the recorded tones to phreak the pay phone, etc.

I’d say the pranking competition by Miller and Jolie also qualified as they fricked with the agent who popped their friend by canceling his credit cards, hacking his DMV records to add tickets and a DUI, hacking a personal ad to get him harassed by perverts, etc.
Posted by LSUFAN227
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Member since Jan 2012
513 posts
Posted on 4/16/21 at 3:29 pm to
This is something I always notice too.

One that sticks out... and I am not criticizing because how could you criticize, is Tombstone. Just an all time great.

But, Doc Holiday must have invented the one and only extended clip revolver immediately before OK Coral. That dude fired no less than 30 rounds per gun.

Still love the scene, just always notice that.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30520 posts
Posted on 4/16/21 at 4:50 pm to
If you know enough about the subject matter that is part of the plot in most any movie you will find issues. The more popcorn flick it is the more laws of physics etc it will likely break. They are entertainment after all.

Just some of the many places where movies diverge from real life:

Courtroom procedure
Surgeries
explosives
almost all military weapons
tons of issues with car chases like pickup trucks staying with sports cars when it can't be the driver


It occurs generally not because no one making the movie doesn't know better it simply isn't what they want to put on screen.

One reason behind the reloading is it would be hell on the editor. Probably every gun "battle" in a movie would have to be reshot at least once to get the reloading sequences correct or they would have to use a bunch of choppy cuts.

I find I enjoy movies more when I just let them take me where they want. Just sort of float on top and absorbs the filmmaker's vision avoiding diving too deep and thinking too much. When the movie is over I allow myself to critique it if I feel like it. My enjoyment of movies has significantly improved when I made that conscious decision years ago.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115470 posts
Posted on 4/16/21 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

Silencers deaden all gunshot sounds


I love when they are on revolvers.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
20049 posts
Posted on 4/16/21 at 6:38 pm to
Give "Open Range" a look and the big near final part of the movie where Costner and Duvall face off with the land baron and his gang gets downright silly.

In one scene I think Costner must have shot 20 plus rounds out of 2 six shooters without reloading.

Another thing that kills me about action movies is the good guys seemingly can't be hit by the bad guys, even if they are shooting at them with multiple assault rifles at the same time.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33819 posts
Posted on 4/16/21 at 6:41 pm to
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Surgeries

I find I enjoy movies more when I just let them take me where they want. Just sort of float on top and absorbs the filmmaker's vision avoiding diving too deep and thinking too much.



When I watch Ronin (1998)I want to believe Sam can tell his French buddies how to extract a bullet from his side, and then say, " If you don't mind, I'm gonna pass out."



Scene on YouTube
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39282 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 1:41 am to
And a pistol shot makes a human body fly backwards when even a rifle or shotgun blast would not really do that.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39420 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 1:48 am to
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John Wick did a great job of showing actual reloading of firearms


Did it or was he just throwing in endless magazines?

Die Hard was maybe the last movie I saw the protagonist actually reloading his magazine.

Hollywood doesn't show it because nobody wants to see it unless there is severe downtime in the action and he's talking to another cop about Twinkies.
This post was edited on 4/17/21 at 1:49 am
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11821 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:04 am to
quote:

I like how they make 100 yard head shots with a pistol.


There is some really bad pistol scenes in the walking dead. Hanging out a window of a moving car and nailing zombies.
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