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re: Watched video about worst plot twists, and have to disagree with The Village being one
Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:40 am to magildachunks
Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:40 am to magildachunks
If Donnie doesn’t die, the world ends when the pocket universe closes after 28 days and change.
Blame Richard Kelly for not making it more obvious because the theatrical version was fairly ambiguous on a lot of stuff. The recut made it more explicit and came off worse for it IMHO.
Blame Richard Kelly for not making it more obvious because the theatrical version was fairly ambiguous on a lot of stuff. The recut made it more explicit and came off worse for it IMHO.
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:41 am to Obtuse1
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People do it all the time with great actors, directors, and franchises. The product might be rated a perfectly enjoyable 6-7 out of 10 if it were judged standalone but with the expectations associated with those involved a movie can get generally panned with a much lower score.
There is a flip side to this, too, where critics just pan movies b/c of outside factors. Gigli and Bright are 2 great examples.
Gigli may suck, but being a 3-4 is a lot different than the meme of it being a 0 that became dogma. It got bad press b/c of Benifer and b/c once people shite on it, the momentum required everyone to shite on it or else your opinion was one so bad you didn't hate the "worst movie ever made".
Bright is another one. I'm guessing this became a meme b/c of critics trying to shite on streaming services becoming studios.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:42 am to Animal
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Dude has made on "decent" movie....rest are shite.
Unbreakable is great.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:59 am to dallastiger55
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I liked the Village
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:04 am to magildachunks
I guess that's another unpopular movie take I have. I like the Village plot twist even if it was lamely executed. I dislike the lack of a plot twist in Signs.
I tend to favor actual explanations over fantasy ones. I like sci-fi movies about robots and real science gone awry, I dislike ones about aliens and monsters. Aliens in Signs were a let down for me.
Someone who thinks differently than I do, and I think there are a lot of those people, probably have a completely opposite position on the Signs/Village matter.
I tend to favor actual explanations over fantasy ones. I like sci-fi movies about robots and real science gone awry, I dislike ones about aliens and monsters. Aliens in Signs were a let down for me.
Someone who thinks differently than I do, and I think there are a lot of those people, probably have a completely opposite position on the Signs/Village matter.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:28 am to Cenlabration
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I always liked The Village and never understood the hate for it
Same here. Maybe I thought the twist was great because it scratched the same itch that all these cult documentaries do. I thought the acting was great, Adrien Brody may be the biggest douche ever but he's an amazing actor. His death scene is hard to watch
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Like when Bryce Howards character, who is blind, is putting out her hand during the village "attack" cuz she believes Lucius will be there, is really a great scene.
Throat got a little tight on that one
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:32 am to magildachunks
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Donnie Darko has a retarded plot twist and ending, but is praised for it.
The main character realizing how to solve the situation and then going through with it is typically just considered an "ending."
And who's praising Donnie Darko for anything?
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:35 am to Pettifogger
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Someone who thinks differently than I do, and I think there are a lot of those people, probably have a completely opposite position on the Signs/Village matter.
Weirdly, I like both The Village and Signs. The Village is weaker obviously, but it's still solid. And I do agree with the OP that it would be viewed better had it been anyone other than MNS.
As I always argue on here, Signs is one of his best movies though (if not his best). And there's not really a "twist" in it, but I get why people argue that there is. It's just a fantastic movie about lost faith (and restoring that faith)...it's not about aliens at all.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:42 am to bluestem75
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I used to teach HS American Lit. We watched The Village every year because it contains every feature of each major movement (Puritanism, Romanticism, Realism, Transcedentalism, Modernism, while being Postmodern itself). Shayamalan wrote an homage to American thinking and evolution
Well, that’s one way of looking at it.
J/k, that’s a brilliant observation.
I really liked the movie because of all the different places it takes you emotionally.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:49 am to magildachunks
The thing that made The Village so bad was how predictable it was.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:49 am to CocomoLSU
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Weirdly, I like both The Village and Signs. The Village is weaker obviously, but it's still solid. And I do agree with the OP that it would be viewed better had it been anyone other than MNS.
As I always argue on here, Signs is one of his best movies though (if not his best). And there's not really a "twist" in it, but I get why people argue that there is. It's just a fantastic movie about lost faith (and restoring that faith)...it's not about aliens at all.
i like both a lot. village in particular is just beautifully shot and has great tense moments. i kinda hate that the monster was adrian brody, but wllliam hurt's voiceover telling BDH "there were rumors of monsters" as you see the monster stalking her is a great chilling moment.
he had a bad patch with Lady in the Water, Avatar, Happening, and After Earth, but his library gets unjustly crapped on because of everybody freaking out over 6th sense and going into his movies expecting a twist. visit, devil, servant, split, etc. were all great.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:54 am to 3nOut
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he had a bad patch with Lady in the Water, Avatar, Happening, and After Earth, but his library gets unjustly crapped on because of everybody freaking out over 6th sense and going into his movies expecting a twist. visit, devil, servant, split, etc. were all great.
I know MNS is known to be full of shite on more than one occasion, but I do believe him when he says that Happening was played for B movie style laughs. I love it, if you watch it in that regard.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:06 am to 3nOut
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devil
I really liked that one.
Split was solid, Glass was decent/meh.
I've never seen The Visit, and weirdly don't even remember hearing about it or seeing a trailer.
I'm really looking forward to Old actually.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:55 am to lagallifrey
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The twist in The Village was very heavily telegraphed, to the point where I didn’t consider it a twist when I saw it
Agreed. I would even go a step further and say it was so telegraphed, that I thought the audience was being set up to get blindsided by a different twist when I first saw it.
I remember most of the theater groaning at the end, I think because they were also waiting for some other explanation or surprise that never came. M Night was kind of a victim of his own success here. I agree with the earlier post saying that The Village would be more appreciated if it was directed by someone else.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 11:18 am to CocomoLSU
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I've never seen The Visit, and weirdly don't even remember hearing about it or seeing a trailer.
i had no idea it was even in theaters. never even saw an ad for it, just watched it on streaming and really liked it.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 11:25 am to Philzilla2k
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Unbreakable is great.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 11:49 am to CBandits82
quote:Meh, it would have been better if marketed as an allegory instead of a horror film. Same for Signs.
The village would have been better if the monsters turned out to be real
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:21 pm to magildachunks
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Just like Signs is unfairly compared to that film. Everyone claims to hate the "twist" in Signs of the aliens being weak to water, but that's not the twist
Signs was just an all around bad movie. And the whole aliens can’t be around water was so profoundly stupid, the rest of the movie doesn’t even matter.
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:24 pm to 3nOut
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Lady in the Water
Maybe it's because I'm a huge Paul Giamatti and BDH fan but I'm in the minority of folks that really likes this
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:52 pm to CocomoLSU
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Weirdly, I like both The Village and Signs.
+1
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