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Watched video about worst plot twists, and have to disagree with The Village being one

Posted on 7/18/21 at 11:57 pm
Posted by magildachunks
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 11:57 pm
Is it a great Twist? Maybe not. Definitely not M. Night's best.

But it's not terrible, or even stupid, as far as twists go.

If M. Night had not written and directed The Sixth Sense before this film, it would not be viewed as harshly as it is.

If another director besides him had made it, it would be viewed as a really good movie with a damn good twist at the end.

But since it is a film by him, it is judged against The Sixth Sense.

Just like Signs is unfairly compared to that film. Everyone claims to hate the "twist" in Signs of the aliens being weak to water, but that's not the twist.

I'd argue there is no twist in that film. But if you want to assign one, (which people do because it's an M. NIght film, so there must be one) then it would be Gibson's realisation of what his wife's last words meant. Swing away.

The Village doesn't have a terrible plot twist, but is maligned for having one.

Donnie Darko has a retarded plot twist and ending, but is praised for it.

Go Figure.
Posted by Huey Lewis
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:03 am to
How does Donnie Darko have a plot twist?
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:09 am to
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How does Donnie Darko have a plot twist?




How does Signs?


People assign one to it.

The one in Donnie Darko is him going back and staying in bed to allow the plane engine to kill him.

Which is just completely stupid. He didn't have to die, he just had to: 1 - Stay at the Party or 2 - better than 1, don't go to the party.

It's really stupid.
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:57 am to
It was one because it was expected. Same film by any other director and it would've been more appreciated.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:54 am to
The village would have been better if the monsters turned out to be real
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 2:00 am to
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It was one because it was expected. Same film by any other director and it would've been more appreciated.


People do it all the time with great actors, directors, and franchises. The product might be rated a perfectly enjoyable 6-7 out of 10 if it were judged standalone but with the expectations associated with those involved a movie can get generally panned with a much lower score.

Not quite the same but if a woman gets choked in a QT movie I better believe it is real, the expectation is there.
Posted by Cenlabration
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 2:40 am to
I always liked The Village and never understood the hate for it. Me and my wife(no pics) ,I think are the only people we know who like that movie. Of course we were in our early 20's and probably high when we saw it. My wife loved the love story aspect of it,which is basically what it is. Like when Bryce Howards character, who is blind, is putting out her hand during the village "attack" cuz she believes Lucius will be there, is really a great scene.
Posted by BRIllini07
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Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 3:21 am to
Signs and the Village back to back ends up with an additional twist.

Signs: One twist here is the aliens turned out to be real, and the crop circles weren't a hoax at all.

The Village: There are no monsters, just a flock of overprotective parents.

The Twist in the Village though is much more telegraphed, because of the setting depicting a time period when (at a minimum) horses and buggies would have been around.
Posted by lagallifrey
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 3:42 am to
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The Twist in the Village though is much more telegraphed, because of the setting depicting a time period when (at a minimum) horses and buggies would have been around.


The twist in The Village was very heavily telegraphed, to the point where I didn’t consider it a twist when I saw it. The bad accents were a big giveaway, because these were modern day people just pretending. The journey to a nearby town to get what were obviously antibiotics was the biggest giveaway to me.
Posted by PowerTool
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 4:02 am to
Wait, I thought the twist in The Village was that everyone was having fun playing tricks on the blind chick? Maybe I didn't read enough into it.
Posted by dallastiger55
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 6:14 am to
I liked the Village
Posted by Animal
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 6:45 am to
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not M. Night's best.


Dude has made on "decent" movie....rest are shite.
Posted by Animal
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 6:49 am to
quote:

The Village


Never a helicopter or plane in the sky....

Wonder what they did without the all the chemtrails???
Posted by dallastiger55
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 7:05 am to
I really like his Apple + series “The Servant”. Very underrated
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 7:12 am to
quote:

Never a helicopter or plane in the sky....

Wonder what they did without the all the chemtrails???



This was addressed in the movie, as part of the "experiment" the government created a no-fly zone.
Posted by Animal
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 7:16 am to
quote:

This was addressed in the movie



Hmmmm....don't remember that but will take your word for it.

I did not hate this movie and I was kind of digging the blind chick.....red heads, man.
Posted by Jor Jor The Dinosaur
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 7:39 am to
The reason I dislike the twist in The Village is because I saw it coming a mile away. It was a rip-off of a YA novel I had read in 4th or 5th grade, Running Out of Time.
Posted by truthbetold
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:33 am to
The biggest travesty along these lines was the marketing of Unbreakable as a thriller, when it is in reality legitimately one of the best superhero movies ever.
Posted by Thracken13
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:35 am to
so did I - was it and signs oscar worthy films? no, but they were light years better than the Happening and Last Airbender.
Posted by bluestem75
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:38 am to
I used to teach HS American Lit. We watched The Village every year because it contains every feature of each major movement (Puritanism, Romanticism, Realism, Transcedentalism, Modernism, while being Postmodern itself). Shayamalan wrote an homage to American thinking and evolution.

It’s also his 9/11 film exploring how leaders (sometimes even with good intentions) can manipulate populations into fear of boogeymen (real or imagined) following a traumatic event.
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