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race/gender swap casting that worked

Posted on 5/16/26 at 11:18 am
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 11:18 am
you were skeptical, perhaps rightly so.
but goddamn it he/she/it owned the role and you enjoyed the performance



I realize this may be a short thread
Posted by The Godfather
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 11:21 am to
This thread will be a complete shitshow
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 11:31 am to
Darth Vader.
Posted by Kinderman
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 11:37 am to
Posted by Two0Five
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 11:50 am to
Denzel's Man on Fire
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 11:52 am to
Without Remorse

Being an Irish Catholic was integral to the John Clark character. Worked partly because they already had a good storyline they didn't radically change, and partly because the race swap wasn't in the name of wokeism. The actor just really liked the character and wanted to do the movie.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 12:03 pm to
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Without Remorse
that’s a good one. I had a specific image in my head of what John Clark looked like, after the books and particularly after willem dafoe played him but jordan did a great job
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 12:12 pm to
Fox in Wanted

Jolie was ok but Berry would’ve been better for what the character functioned as.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 12:14 pm to
Starbuck got tons of hate at the time, but it was great casting and Ronald D Moore made one of the best reboots ever, especially for sci-fi.
Posted by Hester Carries
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 12:23 pm to
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Denzel's Man on Fire


Denzel is Denzel.

I also think the (and this is important) UNSPOKEN dynamic of the grizzled old black guy and the happy little white girls adds to the story without changing it.
This post was edited on 5/16/26 at 12:24 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 12:37 pm to
Not the same, but the switch from XXL to snack-size Reacher in the movies worked, at least for me.
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 12:44 pm to
I'm so/so on the movie, but Jeffrey Wright was good as Gordon. I thought Judi Dench was a great M. Combining Wright and Bond, I liked him as Felix Leiter.

Generally I don't care if a character is race/gender swapped if it's not important to the character and doesn't feel like pandering.
This post was edited on 5/16/26 at 1:59 pm
Posted by Two0Five
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 12:46 pm to
Jaime Foxx was a damn good Django
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 12:57 pm to
Caretaker in The Longest Yard
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 1:01 pm to
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Fox in Wanted
That movie wasn’t even related to the source material outside of “character shoots guns”, so I don’t think it even matters.

It wasn’t even a race swap since they didn’t even use the source material, IMO.

That movie sucked hard.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 1:11 pm to
tGOAT

Posted by Sam Quint
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 1:38 pm to
Red in Shawshank will always be the final answer to this question.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 1:46 pm to
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Red in Shawshank will always be the final answer to this question.


I didn't realize he was white in the book.

Morgan Freeman's character is iconic.

Another one: Denzel as the reporter in The Pelican Brief was great. The book specifically says he's white.
This post was edited on 5/16/26 at 1:47 pm
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 1:55 pm to
Donner was casting two white actors. The casting director pointed out that race wasn't mentioned in the script, and that Glover would be perfect.

Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 1:55 pm to
This isn't hard.

Ronald D. Moore wasn't trying to check a quota or anything.

He had, at least, a full idea of what the character should be in his reboot. It did not ring false.

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